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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. Nook

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    The President can write a rebuttal, he can do whatever he wants to do but it has zero legal standing or consequence to the Mueller report.

    The Special Counsel and Robert Muller were a bi-partisan endeavor and non political. It is also an investigation and not an inquisition.
     
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    totally not a Trumper. glad you can read minds, though. ;)
     
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    Just because you post this way, does NOT...make you a Trumper!
     
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  7. KingCheetah

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    Extension is for 6 months.

    Reading between the lines, Mueller must think that he can be done by then, baring any surprises.

    This makes political sense as well. Mueller’s report delivered in 6 months still leaves about 6 months before the first primary.
     
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    Actually, it's a good strategy for re-election as well.

    If the house impeaches and the senate does not convict, the months-long process and breathless news coverage will raise Trumps' approval to perhaps the highest he's ever had, much as they did for Bill Clinton. It will heavily motivate his base and pull some in the middle to his defense as well.

    Most house dems know that even if impeaching the president is the right thing to do, they will be seriously hurting their own chances in 2020. I think Pelosi will do everything can to ensure that the house doesn't proceed on impeachment until she thinks the senate is ready to convict or close to it. (Yes, I agree, almost impossible for 66 senators to convict. Unless the economy tanks.)
     
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    edit: double post
     
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    Speaking of the senate...

     
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  13. DaDakota

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    Once the rats start leaving a sinking ship (GOP and Trump) it will collapse in a hurry.

    DD
     
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    The big question they are looking to answer over the next couple months is “does Trump help or hurt their chances of retaining the Senate in 2020?”

    If their polling and other data shows he helps retain the states they need more than he hurts States like Maine or Colorado, they will not remove him or lessen public support.

    I think we will know really really soon (maybe by March or April) whether Dems should focus on 2020 winning the presidency and Senate, or if there is now Senate support on the GOP to remove him by this Summer.

    I think we will know that here by the Spring.
     
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    Unless a significant majority of the Senate express their willingness to support impeachment of the "president," then I agree that the focus should be on winning the White House and taking the Senate, while holding and even increasing the Democratic majority in the House, not impeaching trump. That should be the focus during the run-up to 2020, that and protecting the Mueller investigation until its conclusion. Impeachment without a successful end game in sight is a distraction Democrats don't need. Mr. trump can be prosecuted after leaving office in defeat in the 2020 election.

    Mueller may come out with a conclusion that upends every plan or intention in both houses of Congress, however, and well ahead of the 2020 election. That forces that immoral liar and enabler, McConnell, to finally calculate that doing anything else other than impeaching and convicting trump will be an even greater threat to the GOP in 2020 than continuing to support trump's constant stream of lies, his consistent effort to weaken and humiliate the United States internationally, and his blatant corruption of the office in his effort to both line his pockets and prevent the truth of what he did to "win" the 2016 election.

    Which is? Seeking and accepting Russian help during the 2016 campaign in exchange for ending the sanctions that are damaging Russia's economy and undermining the support of the Russian oligarchy for the dictator of Russia in all but the name, Vladimir Putin. An act of treason even McConnell may be forced to acknowledge, if Mueller's final report makes trump's treason clear to even the most ignorant, rabid trump supporter. In my opinion.
     
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    The nude selfie has been mentioned numerous time... who could it be? I suspect its no biggie...

     
  18. adoo

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    the judge was appointed by Trump
     
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    Russian Lawyer Natalia Veelnitskaya, w ties to the Trump Campaign,
    Charged By SDNY With Obstruction of Justice in Money-Laundering Case


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    Best-known for her June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort that has become a focus of the investigation into alleged Russian interference in the presidential election,

    Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya was charged with obstruction of justice,
    prosecutors for the Southern District of New York announced on Tuesday morning.
    The U.S. government, SDNY, alleges that
    while representing the defendants in a federal money-laundering case involving corrupt Russian officials, she intentionally misled
    the feds by presenting supposedly independent exculpatory evidence about her clients without disclosing that she had participated
    in drafting that information “in secret cooperation with a senior Russian prosecutor.”​



    https://www.thedailybeast.com/russi...struction-of-justice-in-money-laundering-case
     
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    "Everything will be like the last time this happened" has been a pretty terrible guide for the last few years.

    At some point there is an ethical and moral duty to impeach. He is manifestly unfit for office. He seems to have committed numerous crimes while in and out of office, including several felonies, to become elected, and to cover up those facts.

    When you swear an oath as a legislator, it's your job to impeach the president when there is compelling evidence of things like that.
     
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