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Breaking: Trump's Wall

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Dec 18, 2018.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    If you did, then you wouldn't be the first this year.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    Oliver Darcy's? Yea, I know. Even Brit Hume's to a degree. As soon as trump abandon's his expensive, ineffective and pointless vanity wall and decides to instead address effective and cost-efficient border security I am sure Democrats and republicans can put something together...
     
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    Does that include all people who live in states that get more from the federal government than they kick in? I think that would eliminate most red states. Just sayin, it’s a slippery slope.
     
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    When the country was founded women couldn't vote no matter how much property they owned, slavery was legal and there were no border controls at all - anybody that wanted to enter the country could just walk across the border.

    Conservative obsession with returning to some idealized lost golden age is as silly as it is rampant. It wasn't the utopia you picture it to be in your mind. If you'd been born in 1776 you'd have been pining for an equally fictitious lost age of Oliver Cromwell and the Long Parliment or something similar.
     
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    Cue woe is me violin music………
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Why? I don't miss them.
     
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    What is this "effective and cost-effiecient" border security going to look like? Because right now, it seems as if the border is 1. not secure and 2. expensive.
     
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    Dems want to put in place something easy to roll back when they elect someone eventually. I am sure it will work until that day.

    Actually most Republicans too. Illegal labor is cost effective.
     
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  10. dachuda86

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    Use your words.

    A chart? And?
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    I know its pretty confusing. The chart tells you the number of Southwest Border Apprehensions have plummeted since 2000. In fact, it looks like the number fell from 2016 to 2017. My takeaway from reading the chart is spending money on an expensive and not very cost-effective wall would be a waste of money that could be spent on more important issues.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    So by using that logic, if the police stopped arresting murderers it would mean that there would be no murder. Solid.
     
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    And not the last.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    No, he'd very likely be the last this year.
     
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    There's still time for a meltdown by one side or the other.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL sadly you might be right. I'm hoping everyone decides to end the year on a high note instead.
     
  17. TheRealist137

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    Let's not forget that you had the biggest meltdown of the year forcing you into an embarrassing insincere apology which helped you get reinstated. You are a disgraced poster on these boards.
     
  18. dachuda86

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    You should really take statistics. This chart by itself does not support your claim.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    I wouldn't call that a meltdown, I said a mean thing to a troll. A mean thing that significantly crossed the line that I later apologized for, but that's certainly not a "meltdown". The only "meltdown" came upon my return and it wasn't by me.

    Anyway, thanks for your contribution!
     
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    Well then, you must have gained statistics knowledge since asking the questions: "Use your words. A chart? And?"

    By the way, I am not a statistics expert as you seem to believe you are. Could you tell me the number of southwest border apprehensions represented in the chart in the year 2000? And the number of apprehensions in 2016? While you at it, the same for 2017? You can provide rough numbers since the chart's columns don't provide the exact numbers per year... but I am sure a statistics expert such as yourself can provide reasonably close numbers...
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    Me... my non-expert opinion is the column in 2000 is way taller than in 2017... and a bigger number than 1,600,000. And the column for 2017 sure looks like its between 200,000 and 400,000. And back in the days I took math... 1,600,000 was way bigger than 300,000.

    But maybe you took new math? Or new statistics? Or trump math?
     

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