so you think its bad that obama lied, but you like when trump lies. look how you constantly defend, deflect and make excuses for him. you even acknowledge that trump is a pathological liar, but you dont care. you actually seem to love it. your partisan hackery and hypocrisy is on display here for all to see. sad. and since you brought up obama, i never voted for the guy and i was not a supporter. edit: in the interest of full disclosure i should say i registered as a democrat in 2008 so i could vote in the primary against hillary clinton. so i did vote for obama in the 2008 democrat primary, but i never voted for him for president. just wanted to do my part to make sure hillary didnt get the nomination. either way, trump is a pathological liar and a narcissist on a scale we have never seen before from a president. to try and equate obamas lies to trumps is a total joke.
You're pretty terrible at following along if that's what you got from what I said. I've never said that I like it when Trump lies any more than I liked it when Obama lied....any more than when any president has lied. I was merely pointing out that there are some lies that will cost them with their base and some lies that won't....and I pointed out examples of this. I've never been a Trump supporter, I'm not a Republican and I didn't vote for him, hell I was "Never Trump" before that was even a thing. The only difference between me and some others here is that I don't have Trump Derangement Syndrome. I don't see everything as orange man bad.
Most things Orange Man bad then? (though I can't think of a good one... maybe that 10% pay raise for the military)
and youre just pretty terrible . you seem to like when trump lies. you are constantly defending, deflecting and making excuses for him. have you ever called out trump on any of his specific lies? maybe you have, but ive never seen it. you certainly dont seem that bothered by him lying about his central campaign promise. dont worry boreby - trumps lies are not costing him with his base at all. they are either too stupid or dont care that they are being lied to, manipulated and played for suckers. i do, however, think its pretty odd that he lied about his central campaign promise and his supporters are giving him a total pass on it. you can say you arent a supporter, but again, all you do here is defend, deflect and make excuses for him. you like his policies and you like how he conducts himself...we all know it...just own it. nobody is going to think any less of you than they already do so you have nothing to lose!
One thing he is right about is that is frustrating that we give so much aid to these countries and yet their problems remain severe. Cutting off aid isn't going to help though, but he doesn't really care if it does or doesn't. Really what he wants is those countries to have a border like the Berlin Wall or the demarcation line in Korea where the idea is about preventing escape, rather than protection. It is an attempt at bribery, IMO. I wish more Americans would travel and experience what these people do. Honduras was so rough. There is such beauty there, but the people are exploited and the government is corrupt.
I can understand how it might look that way to the "orange man bad" crowd, but that doesn't make it true. I don't personally find securing the southern border as a bad thing no matter who does it, and I'm not going to change my opinion on the subject based on who is currently president as some have. If Obama had decided to do something about it, I'd have supported the policy just the same as I will support it if Trump does it. Now that said, I know right now you are just lashing out which isn't a new thing from you, and that's fine, but you'll understand if I seek out more intelligent conversation rather than continuing to go back and forth with you. If you were being sincere rather than just trolling me with nonsense, it would be different but perhaps that's too much to ask...so I won't.
More like 2.6% raise (last year's was 2.4%). Trump wrong on size and timing of military pay increases https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...ump-military-pay-increases-wrong-size-timing/
My wife's mom is from Guatemala. My wife and both my daughters have traveled to Guatemala. My dad's family is from Mexico (on his dad's side, my grandmother was Mescalero Apache) so I have traveled many parts of Mexico.
It could be argued that 5.1 billion would be more effectively spent preventing illegal border crossing by providing aid. Central Americans need anti-corruption help, anti-gang violence help and economic opportunity.
The US already sends more than a billion dollars a year to Latin America in aid, for the most part that's just money lit on fire because of how corrupt the vast majority of those countries are. They'd be much better off spending that money on building a wall to make Border Patrol's job easier. Once that is done, and you'd secured the border, then you can talk about throwing money at those countries if you like. An added bonus of spending the money on a border wall system is that you'd be putting that money back into the economy by paying American workers to set it up and by paying American companies to get you the parts required. Basically solve America's problem first, then work on solving their problems.
Your"problem" is being blown out of proportion by xenophobic demagoguery, astroturfing political support from low information voters. Votes the Trump Party could not get by addressing real issues like income equality, infrastructure support or health care.
Sure, that's your current talking points and you are doing a good job of parroting them here. That said, reality is not on your side. Somewhere between 3-5% of the entire country is comprised by those illegally here, and tens of thousands more are caught trying to get in illegally via the southern border every MONTH. It's an absolutely massive problem, no matter what your talking points tell you to think. Compare the 12 million illegal immigrants currently in the US to any other nation....hell compare it to the entire EU where they have something like 600k total...how about Canada? Something like 100k total. No country in the world has an illegal immigration problem that even comes close to comparing to the problem the US is faced with. So yeah, sorry, you need better talking points.
You didn't show how this is a problem on the order of Climate Change, income inequality, lack of basic Healthcare and rising healthcare costs, gerrymandering and voter suppression, freedom of the South China Sea, or Russian incursions into Crimea Here's a shocker:. Trump’s arguments about the wall are mostly exaggerated or false https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ed-or-false/?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.584232259a37
LOL, ah yes, pressing issues like Climate Change or income inequality....were you intending this as a joke? Serious question. I dunno, maybe you were serious but it came across as a bit similar to this As to the healthcare situation, you realize that that problem is tied to the illegal immigration problem right?
