1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Astros Off Season

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,854
    Likes Received:
    24,179
    Sorry dude but all those reasons are ****ing stupid. Maybe his wife prefers the cold? Hahahahahahaha.
     
    swoosh1014 likes this.
  2. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
  3. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,774
    Likes Received:
    6,886
    Good.

    Glad we can stop talking about Cruz.
     
  4. Stros4me

    Stros4me Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    676
    Likes Received:
    184
    Ok, we are done here. Thanks for the back and forth.
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  5. Mr.Pringles

    Mr.Pringles Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2016
    Messages:
    2,592
    Likes Received:
    1,891
    Me too. Cruz kills flexibility. Brantley, Diaz/Gurriel, White, Chirinos (if we trade for Realmuto) can all be occasional DH’s. We don’t need another Gattis
     
  6. Stros4me

    Stros4me Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    676
    Likes Received:
    184
    Gattis couldn’t hit at DH. World of difference.
     
  7. Redfish81

    Redfish81 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2016
    Messages:
    4,774
    Likes Received:
    6,886
    Yup.

    And I expect Cruz to be available at the deadline. Twins should be rebuilding. Yankees/Redsox will take one wild card and Tampa will be the favorite for the 2nd wild card with Angels/A's behind them.
     
  8. Stros4me

    Stros4me Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    676
    Likes Received:
    184

    I like Minn to win their division.
     
  9. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,645
    Yeah that $300,000 buyout would have crippled the Astros for years.
     
  10. Stros4me

    Stros4me Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2017
    Messages:
    676
    Likes Received:
    184
    LOL. No, but it could have been a type of small difference our FO wouldn’t match.
     
  11. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    Eh - WC contenders come out of nowhere every year. At this time last year, if you said Tampa or Oakland would be WC contenders, people would have laughed. All those kinds of teams are up and down - we have no idea what any of them will do next year.
     
  12. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    I think people are missing the larger argument, which is that that players make non-financial decisions all the time. We don't really know why he picked the Twins over his other options, and we don't know what the Astros may have offered.
     
  13. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162


    I have a feeling he'll land in LAD for some combination including Verdugo, with LAD landing Realmuto as well
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 1999
    Messages:
    36,288
    Likes Received:
    26,645
    Not arguing that at all...just that the $300,000 buyout is relative chicken feed.
     
  15. Fyreball

    Fyreball Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2009
    Messages:
    15,169
    Likes Received:
    12,823
    The redundancy of Realmuto landing with the Dodgers, while the Dodgers land Realmuto is redundant.
     
    houstonstime and Snake Diggit like this.
  16. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,854
    Likes Received:
    24,179
    Occam’s razor. The overwhelmingly most likely scenario was that Houston did not offer as much money as Minnesota.
     
  17. awc713

    awc713 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    6,479
    Likes Received:
    6,162
    Haha, meant Harper!
     
  18. Major

    Major Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 1999
    Messages:
    41,681
    Likes Received:
    16,205
    Most likely scenario? Sure - the majority of players tend to pick the largest contract. Overwhelmingly more likely? Not really - players do factor in lots of other things in their decisions all the time. Even more true of older players who've already had a big contract. A few million dollars at that point is not as big a deal.
     
  19. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,854
    Likes Received:
    24,179
    I agree. For now I think LA gets both Realmuto and Harper. Going to be an insanely talented roster, possibly the best of all time. If the NL West shakes out the way it looks like it will, they could easily win 110 games, and with a little luck break the all time record.
     
  20. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,854
    Likes Received:
    24,179
    I guess you’re asking to define “overwhelming”. What % of free agents take the most money? 60%? 80%? 99%? I think at least 90% go for the money. And in cases where they don’t take the money, the overwhelming majority of those go where they think they can win a ring. So in Cruz’s case that’s even more reason to believe he took the money, since Houston would have represented a much better chance to win.
     

Share This Page