Sounds about right for you. Thanks for the "simple question". Since when did you ask about active players?
You have to be a moron to fail to understand the meaning of the word "conversation." We're discussing the greatest offensive seasons of all time. We've got Jordan as the current greatest, and Harden in the midst of a season that may place him ahead of Jordan statistically. Hence the conversation. Until the season is over, including Harden in that conversation is legit. And there's nothing troll-ier than someone calling anyone who disagrees with his questionable assertion a moron, then in the next post accusing others of insults and name-calling.
No, we're not. No one here is discussing ANY greatest offensive seasons of all time. What's being discussed is the anger people feel when someone disagrees with the claim that Harden's current season is the greatest of all time. No, we don't. No argument has been made for that, and statistically it's Wilt, over and over. No, Harden is on pace to match ONE of Jordan's seasons, not Jordan's best season. Well, that's not the reason for the conversation nor is that the conversation. If the conversation is could Harden match one of the lesser seasons of a player that hasn't had the best season of all time, well sure. Agreed, thanks for making my point.
I can think of plenty, but that wasn't the question. I answered the question that was asked. Thanks for proving that you did not intend to ask a "simple question", you intended to troll.
This is a very astute point you bring up. Please, from the data provided (ie, the top 25 'points per game' seasons), tell me which player has the highest points per field goal attempt?
No seaming to it, Consider it sewn ( must stay healthy) Btw, Max Kellerman thinks James Harden is the 7th best player this season
Is "highest points per field goal attempt" the definition of GOAT Offensive Season? How much moving of goal posts is needed before the OP is proven right? It should also be noted that many of these players did not attempt 3 point shots, many because that shot didn't exist at the time. Even Jordan was a reluctant 3-point shooter, the other players here earned their PPFGA the old fashioned way. PPFGA is a terrible tool to compare historical performance for this reason. The OP's argument is that Harden is better than Wilt because his PPFGA extrapolates to a higher scoring average when adjusted to Wilt's usage. I have pointed out that the OP's own data disproves that...because it does. You cannot assume that PPFGA stays the same at higher usage rates. Harden's PPFGA is impressive at his usage but not unprecedented even according to the OP's own data. Therefore, Harden's current season is not the GOAT based on PPFGA or any other commonly accept measure of offensive performance. Wilt sets the standard for offensive performance, that's not even a question.
Talk about moving the goalposts. Now only guys who scored "the old fashioned way" have legitimacy? Wilt took the overwhelming majority of his shots from within 10 feet of the basket against players who were mostly at least half a foot shorter than him, a clear advantage unavailable to Jordan and Harden. Not to take anything away from Wilt, because he took what was available at the time. And who cares if Jordan was a "reluctant 3-point shooter" -- the 3-point shot was was there if he chose to take it. Trying to factor in arbitrary limits to this discussion is utterly pointless. P.S. If it seems like you're under siege in this thread, that's only because everyone thinks you're wrong.
This is a very astute point you bring up. Please, from the data provided (ie, the top 25 'points per game' seasons), tell me which player has the highest points per field goal attempt? I dunno, but it really sounds like you're moving the goal posts from the point of the thread? The thread is predicated on Harden having the GOAT offensive season based on his number of field goal attempts needed to score the points he is scoring. Your argument that a moron should be able to read the data is interesting.
This is known as a straw man. I never questioned legitimacy. I am also not moving the goal posts here, I'm simply explaining why PPFGA is not a good historical measure. You won't be taken seriously using such intentionally dishonest arguments. Are you now questioning Wilt's legitimacy? I agree, and I'm not trying to do so. There is one accepted measure of offensive greatness, that's PPG. Wilt owns it, and you are trying to factor in weakness of defenders to discredit Wilt's accomplishments. Everyone who posts disagreeing with me perhaps. When I see a post worth respecting, it will be the first.
