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Fire Bill O'Brien

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by DonnyMost, Sep 23, 2016.

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Should we fire Bill O'Brien?

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  1. conquistador#11

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    after the int by Bmac, he shelled and acted like the 3 point lead was 3 tds. I think the game changes there if we let Deshaun be Deshaun. And how many 3rd and 1s did you not roll out #4 when you had been rolling him out with more yards to go. I got to manage better, TANIA!
     
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    It's 3rd and 11. What to do? Hey, I know! Let's run that WR screen play that never works!
     
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  3. Major

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    Of course it was terrible. This is the underlying issue I have with BoB, and especially the "he just needs to hire an offensive coordinator" camp. BoB's problems are everything involving overall game management. In that scenario, with about 4 minutes to go, you're only going to get one possession at best, and ideally, that possession gives you a 1 pt lead. So your goal is to get the ball, score on your possession, and do so with as little time left as possible afterwards. There is literally no reason to call timeouts with 4 minutes to go - nothing good can come of it. You only need about 2 minutes to run an effective drive, and that's exactly what it turned out they used. The Texans *wanted* some clock to run there before getting the ball back.

    If there were 2 minutes left, you take the timeouts. You could even make a case for it at 7-8 minutes left in that it potentially gives you 2 opportunities to score. But 4-5 minutes is the worst time to be calling timeouts.
     
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  4. JayGoogle

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    Definitely a lot of bad playcalling from BOB. I wish he'd get a dedicated OC.

    The announcers said something puzzling today. That when BOB calls plays he's focused on winning and not scoring points. This may seem stupid, but if you're a HC then your goal is to win games. Period. This is why having a HC also act as say...General Manager or anything else backfires because the HC is always going to put the short term gain ahead of the long term gain.

    If you had an OC his job wouldn't even be judged by winning...it would be judged by scoring points.

    I think BOB can probably be a great coach if he just delegates the offense to someone. Hopefully after this year he will see that because no way he's getting fired right now.

    I will say though that the offense looked 10x better when Fuller played...but good luck relying on that dude to play.
     
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    Players will continue to get hurt under this loser's philosophy
     
  6. DaDakota

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    He will hold this team back from EVER reaching it's potential.

    DD
     
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    The fact that we have to win the last game to clinch the division points to his coaching.
     
  8. vinsensual

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    Commentators complimented the timeout but didn't explain why. Not that there's any reason to believe whoever was calling the game.
    I wouldn't have trusted him to use those timeouts wisely in a 2 minute situation anyways. And BOB just reaffirmed in his presser right now that he thought that was a good use of his timeouts.
     
  9. DatRocketFan

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    Has a franchise qb, but plays him like a back up QB with these p***y ass conservative plays and expects watson to bail him on 3rd and long. This mindset alone should get him fired. Hes been doing this all season long.
     
  10. Major

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    Wow - did he explain his supposed rationale? This seems like the most basic of football strategy. While I don't think highly of coaches and their time management in general, they have been getting this part right for a long time in holding timeouts until 2-3 minutes left when down by 1 score.
     
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    Momentum was lost on that 4-2. O'Brien coward ass gave all kinds of life to Philly by punting there. He coaches like he has the '85 Bears defense on his side. Just idiotic. O'Brien not trusting Watson enough to stop being conservative at this point is ridiculous. OB is a stubborn, coward loser. The D sucks at this point, put the game in the hands of the franchise, Watson!
     
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    Say what you want about Obrien but the offense scored 30 points, so you cant blame him for the loss. This loss was on the defense.

    Fire billicheck for only scoring 24 points. Fire tomlin for only putting up 28 points.
     
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  13. Major

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    This would make sense if BoB was the offensive coordinator instead of head coach.
     
  14. Mr.Scarface

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    U needed a TD. U want time for your QB to drive. Come on, now. It was the RIGHT time to call timeouts. You had no idea you would score that fast. You ONLY need 2 minutes....really? who says? You are down to your #4 and #5 WRs (outside of Hopkins). You don't chance it. You goal is to SCORE. Your defense is supposed to be able to STOP someone.
     
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    By using his timeouts with 4 mins left BOB gave his team another chance to get the ball back if they gave up a first down after using their timeouts. He also gave his team a chance to run their 4 minute offense. Have you ever heard of the 4 minute offense? Probably not, I'm guessing.
     
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    30 point should be enough to win an NFL game.

    Unless you're playing the Chiefs.
     
  17. Major

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    Teams routinely wait until 2-3 minutes before using timeouts for a very good reason. The Texans would have had 2 minutes AND 3 timeouts AND the 2-minute warning - that's more than enough time to score under pretty much any circumstance. Watch any other game and in a one-score game, you'll rarely see teams taking timeouts early. The exception would be a team like the Ravens or maybe Seahawks that only really have a slow / methodical offense because they are so run-heavy. Or a team with a backup QB or someone who might need more time to call plays.

    The defense gave up 500+ yards of offense, and on the final drive, Philly would have 4 downs instead of 3 anytime needed. There wasn't much doubt that Philly could get into FG range - they were stupid and started at their own 10, and still ultimately wasted over a minute of clock at the end because they got there so fast.

    If they gave up the first down, they still have 3 timeouts and the 2-minute warning. They still get the ball with 2 minutes left. In either case, they would have saved 2 minutes (40 seconds x 3), so when you take the timeouts is irrelevant - if you give up the first down, you'll get the ball back with the same amount of time either way.

    The "4 minute offense" is an offense that is designed to eat up clock and waste 4 minutes (whether it involves scoring at the end to win or to run out clock). That's what Philly was running at that point in the game when the Texans took their timeouts. The Texans did not run a 4-minute offense when they got the ball.
     
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  18. raining threes

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    The fact that he's won 10 games with this roster and these injuries is simply amazing.

    Blue/Nuk/Smith at WR certainly doesn't scare teams and this OL is almost as last years. Now that the CB's are hurt I dont expect them to win another game this year.
     
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    It's not that amazing. The defense is amazing. Obrien has won with a bad offense.
     
  20. Spacemoth

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    With the Steelers loss the Texans' playoff matchup is set:

    In round 1, it'll be Playoff Deshaun Watson against Playoff Bill O'Brien.

    Who will prevail?! Can Watson ignore enough of O'Brien's dipshit playcalls to win the game? Or will O'Brien succeed in Rick-Smithian fashion in doing just enough to keep his job for perpetuity?

    The drama hasn't been this high since Kevin McHale was holding the Rockets back, year after year.
     
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