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Rockets are shopping Brandon Knight and a 1st-Round Pick?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by blahblehblah, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. ApacheWarrior

    ApacheWarrior Member

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    I would like to pry DJ Agustine from Magic. If he is not hurt. His contract is tolerable.

    Maybe get Simmons in the deal as well.
     
  2. basketballholic

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    The pick and Knight have been shopped for an expiring contract and either a high second round draft pick or a good young player on a rookie contract. Something like Shump and a high 2 or Shump and a player like Mason.

    The expiring contract would then be sent to a third team along with possibly an expiring contract derived from a fourth team that trade for ego by yielding up another expiring contract and a first round pick that is sent back to us.

    So basically we'd wind up with a pick for a pick, and EGo/Knight/Melo out for expirings that are sent to the third team to relieve them of salary, with the third team sending us another asset. We basically take on a little bit more salary, maybe get an upgrade to our pick with the pick we get back for Ego, plus another asset (pick/player) from the knight/first team, and another asset (likely player) from the team looking to cut salary by trading for expiring.

    Remember this....if we're willing to move a pick out with Knight.....it means we know we are going to get a pick back firt EGo......or.......or..........or..........Capela.

    The only way we won't be whole with our picks is if we are bringing in a superstar like Beal, Davis, Durant, etc.

    We will end this season with a full bevy of picks OR another superstar. And at the draft......if Anthony Davis and/or Durant are still in limbo we will likely attempt to trade our 2019 pick for another future first round pick if we can't get a deal done for one of them then.
     
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  3. J Sizzle

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    Cant wait. Looking forward to it.
     
  4. ApacheWarrior

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    I'm drawing a blank on Mason

    Plumblee?

    And I see Orlando is 8th seed currently. So probably not a seller. Shucks.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    I like Beal but he is not in the same convo as AD and KD in my opinion.
     
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    Thanks for “getting it”. I think that’s Morey’s play at this point.
     
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  7. basketballholic

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    That's a given.

    And we won't give up for him what we would for KD or AD. But we could possibly acquire him and flip him and an extra pick or two plus another asset for KD or AD.
     
  8. daywalker02

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    I hear your sentiment, without reading all of your comment, when do you see that happening in what timeline?

    Okay at the draft, you say they are going to trade Capela or Gordon to get back picks?

    I am probably still stuck in this moment, so to look that far ahead, I probably need more time to digest CP3's injury.
     
  9. ApacheWarrior

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    I can see Eric Gordon moved, but not Capela.
     
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    Dunno. I felt like there was an immediacy to the situation a few days ago with the release of Qi. That signaled something imminent. I speculated on something happening today because of some info I know.

    Now I'm wondering if we're backing out to January 15 and waiting for CC availability.

    I still can't see dropping Qi without a deal imminent though. So I still think we're moving one or both of Knight/Ego out with Melo and possibly Edwards and one of MCW/Ennis soon. Maybe we're waiting on Ennis to be rehabbed?????

    I can see a possible deal involving Knight, Melo, expirings and a first for Harrison Barnes or Otto Porter or Beal. We may be willing give up two picks in that package for Porter or Beal provided we got back other assets.

    I can see the possibly of Knight with Ego, melo, and one pick going out for Harrison Barnes (or Porter or Beal possibly two picks) and a decent sized expiring deal like JR Smith.

    I can also see a possible deal involving same players (with no net picks out) and Miami or Charlotte.

    I still think a deal is imminent and morey is simply dredging the rest of the pond before the deal starts leaking to bring any other parties on board to make it better.
     
  11. ROXTXIA

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    Dare to dream, but let's not fantasize about acquiring KD or AD. We'd have to trade for either of them. Golden State isn't going to help us. New Orleans isn't going to help us. I'm tired of being the Buffalo Bills. Second doesn't count. They aren't coming here.

    I am starting to believe and/or wonder if semi-desperation will see Clint Capela on the block. And EGO heading into the last year of his contract, playing like rhymes-with-zit? But getting draft picks? Every year I sit through hours of NBA draft and it's, "Well, we tried to move up and didn't. But we got the player we were REALLY AFTER at #43!"

    I'm not trying to join the naysayers. Maybe Morey can add on to what we have with those three/four #1 draft picks and Knight or whatever. I wouldn't mind a swing at, say, DeAngelo Russell (can play alongside CP3 and Harden, can replace the former when injured) and Jarrett Allen if Clint becomes a salary sticking point. I would hate to mess with what chemistry we have but the clock is ticking loud on this season.

    I guess we do have to see just how much time CP3 will miss. If the water in the bathtub gets too cold, do you drain it or add more hot water?
     
  12. saleem

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    Augustin is fit, and scoring fairly well, not passing very much. 14.4M for a total of 2yrs at the age of 31 yrs isn't too bad. Simmons is on a 6M contract. Neither are worth a 1st rounder, so it's not going to be easy to acquire them.
     
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  13. Pat

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    Yes! That's how we know it's true!
    That's the beauty of ClutchFans, only we know!
     
  14. Pat

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    I can see Capela being traded. He is extremely valuable to Rockets as a role player. If some other GM sees the eye popping stats Capela is putting up, he may think 'this guy can be a core piece for us' and give up something of tangible value. I don'y know what that would be. And I don't want to trade Capela as he fits our scheme perfectly. But if you want value, you have to give up value.
     
  15. DaBeard

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    Morey needs to hurry the hell up and do something quick
     
  16. ApacheWarrior

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    Well, no the first rounder is for taking the contract of Knight.

    Ryan contract..greater than..Chriss/Knight

    Knight contract
    i don’t believe he can be traded this first year of his deal.

    My understanding is they could have negotiated a deal before July first and then yes.....but once July first hit
    and he became a restricted free agent, a no trade clause is baked into the contract automatically (for year one).
    Team re-signing player or matching offer gets hit with that.

    I could be wrong. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong.
     
  17. BigBum

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    Very critical.
    What is the reason Morey is so slow?
     
  18. napalm06

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    I'd imagine the holdup is the crappy assets he has accumulated (Knight, MCW, Melo, Ennis etc) have no return value. Making upgrade trades without asset depth is not easy.

    We need to start dangling Gordon all over the place though.
     
  19. BigBum

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    It will most likely be someone who can move into the rotation quickly.

    Who are they?
     
  20. J Sizzle

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    Yep. Sounds like Kevin Durant or Anthony Davis is on the way!
     
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