Anyone happy is a traitor to the USA... the same was the case under President Ohama. Party should never come before country. I haven’t seen many people happy, mostly just people that knew it would happen with poorly thought out policy and a general lack of confidence in this administration.
You just named a bunch of things and tried to minimize them, yet are oblivious to the fact that COMBINED they all add up and are causing this downturn.
Did you miss the point where I said markets don’t react well to government shutdowns? I think they are inconsequential and only serve as headline grabbing material. Did you completely miss how the markets had no problem with his revolving door administration during the rally? This has been consistent and it hasn’t been an issue up until people started trying to find reasons for the market sell off other than the bluntly obvious one. The global economy is slowing down and people are afraid it will drag the US into a recession. Further, there was a bit of fear put into the market with the Fed language being too hawkish in the face of minimal inflation pressure even though they backed down from 3 to 2 hikes potentially in 2019. You could argue that there is some overarching political instability being factored in with a potential impeachment but that is questionable at this point to me. Further, did the Fed note any major slowdowns due to the trade talk? I may have missed it if they did but feel free to show me. Lastly, I’m minimizing some of these points because they are not significant. I don’t know why anyone would put any of those points over the importance of the overall global economy.
replace w "Trump started to F around w the tariff/trade war", and he made the situation worse w his fake news about trade negotiation w China in Argentina.
Growth is not infinite, what goes up,must come down, and in a time when so many have nothing, Americans are still better off than the rest of the world. So many people don't understand the double edged sword of capitalism. This would have happened with or without Trump, like it has so many times in the past.
I didn't call you blind, but if the shoe fits. Please tell me those five things? Here are five ways he will lose his support base: 1. Border Policy failure: Not build the wall. (which I don't fully support because, unlike people think, because I am not a "trumpster." I am just not obsessively anti-trump though.) 2. War policy: Stay in Syria or worse create a new pointless Obama-Bush style war somewhere else (a presence in any middle eastern country where there is war really isn't something a lot of people support. They want our boys home.) 3. Global diplomacy: Fail on the world stage in a way that makes him look weak. (North Korea hasn't embarassed him but wait for it to blow up in his face. That will likely cause a huge loss of support) 4. Cave in on bad trade policies: Sign the TPP or anything of its ilk 5. Take tha' gunz: Obviously he won't, but he will hurt his base if he does too much gun control. He lost a lot of credit with the Bump stock ban and has shaken his base. He won't get blamed for the economy because it is first of all, largely a product of other forces. He will shoulder blame should it tank, but I don't think supporters will buy the argument that he caused it.
I don’t want the market to crash. I have Quite a bit of money invested so this sucks. I hate trump but I care about my money way more.
I will believe it when I see it. Trump said it himself, he can shoot somebody in the middle of time square and they will still support him. He basically called his supporters blind and this was during the election. That one statement should have taken him out of the running. After everything that has been happening since then, his loyal base has not gone down by much and continue to be loyal. The wall is not happening. Where are these supporters that are jumping ship? Correction: Steel slats
If the markets were only moving off of fear of the global economy, then it wouldn't be as volatile as it is, moving off of seemingly every piece of news that comes out. Indicators of a slowing economy have been around already, no? Why then does the market tank after certain news stories come out? Nowadays most of the time Trump's government does something, the markets react negatively because it's not what investors want to hear.
You’ve convinced me. This is only Trump’s fault and I won’t think of things from any other perspective. There is nothing else going on in the world other than Trump.
LOL, Trump's "base" won't save him. People literally need to stop giving a **** about Trump's base and making dumb comments like "rally the base" because it doesn't really MEAN anything, unless you're say trying to save a Republican Senate seat....IN MISSISSIPPI of all places. What does a sufficiently rallied base do, other than momentarily make what remains of the addled Trump mind momentarily forget the gaping hole where a soul used to be - the answer is approximately ****-all. A rallied Trump base will...sit at home watching cable TV and occasionally fill shitty second rate arenas for a heaping of racism and stupidity and occassionally, they'll go Ceasar Sayoc and maybe try to kill some people (RIP, future base victims!). But in the grand scheme, It didn't really save him in the last election, only the structural stupidity of the constitution did.
1. FAKE NEWS 2. Stop tweeting .. PERIOD 3. Read 4. Listen to the advise of his staff 5. PAC and Gerrymandering Its really sad that most of those are basic things you require from a teenager. The bar has been set so low that elementary things (stuff he should already be doing) are things that is aspired from the leader of the free world. Now your turn. What would it take?
There are other factors than just the orange guy that are causing the markets to fall. BUT he’s spent the last year saying that HE has created the greatest economy ever, so he deserves criticism.