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Trump Approval at 55%! Go Trump!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocketman1981, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. NewRoxFan

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    The ideal time is when Mueller has completed his investigation. Of course, this process could be helped if trump would agree to testify. But this is an incredible important investigation, considering both the subject and impact on America, I think it is important to fully investigate so that everyone knows there was nothing illegal and possibly treasonous that happened. And in fairness to trump, if something is found then the evidence and resulting charges must be prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
     
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    As long as republicans control the congress he can't really do anything. Only congress can do something about the president.
     
  3. AleksandarN

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    You’re like a parrot. Probably have the intellect of one. This thread is about trump’s approval rating. Why don’t you post that garbage in the appropriate thread aka Mueller thread.
     
  4. Rocketman1981

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    People will vote with their pocketbook. At all levels jobs are plentiful and wages and benefits are rising not due to government mandate
    but through natural competition and the byproducts of an expanding and optimistic economy.

    All these polls and the pundits gave Trump no chance. Yet we continue to listen to these?

    If the economy stays on its torrid pace, TRUMP will win again.
     
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    Then why did you start a thread on Trump's poll numbers?
     
  6. No Worries

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    That 4.2% rate of ONE QUARTER? The same quarter where Trump's approval rating has dropped?

    Whether Trump wins again depends more on who runs against him and how well he sell/market himself.
     
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    Did you know that Mussolini didn't really make the trains run on time?
     
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    I'm sure he would. Of course, Trump's policies really haven't had time to sink in yet. The biggest thing he did was inflate the stock market by cutting the corporate rate.
     
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    Haha, my post was not offensive to anyone but somehow it triggered you. Relax and have a beer brother. I have found it is much easier to not take anything on this forum personally. We are all gonna make it.
     
  10. edwardc

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    With all those that regret they voted for him maybe the swing votes that get him out of office.
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    Ann Althouse asks:

    "Is it possible that the polls are wrong? They were in 2016, when Trump blindsided everybody. I'm thinking maybe the polls are right, and it's really true that when asked, most people say they disapprove of Trump. But people disapprove of a lot of things that — when the time comes to decide what to do — they do. Drinking, eating dessert, looking at p*rnography. And they'll express approval of a lot of things they won't do: getting lots of sleep, eating piles of fresh vegetables, and following Jesus."

    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/09/is-circus-in-washington-drowning-out.html

    more at the link
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    Didn't read, but the initial premise is wrong... the polls were not wrong, at least not significantly. The polls in the final week started to turn towards trump... and many of those that did still show Clinton ahead did so within the error of the poll. And also keep in mind... Clinton did win the popular vote by a few percentage points.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-bl...last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right
     
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    here's the full text in case that link didn't work:

    September 12, 2018
    Is the "Circus in Washington... drowning out good economic news"?[/paste:font]

    I'm reading "There’s Never Been a President This Unpopular With an Economy This Good" (Bloomberg).
    President Donald Trump’s unpopularity is unprecedented given the strength of the economy. That’s according to a Bloomberg analysis of polling data....Is it possible that the polls are wrong? They were in 2016, when Trump blindsided everybody. I'm thinking maybe the polls are right, and it's really true that when asked, most people say they disapprove of Trump. But people disapprove of a lot of things that — when the time comes to decide what to do — they do. Drinking, eating dessert, looking at p*rnography. And they'll express approval of a lot of things they won't do: getting lots of sleep, eating piles of fresh vegetables, and following Jesus.

    Another thing is, the economy is a pretty boring news topic compared to the "circus" of whatever bad thing Trump tweeted or what the latest Mr. Anonymous says Trump did and so forth. But the economy is always there in the background, affecting our lives. We look at the stock prices on our own, without Wolf Blitzer or whoever nudging us to look at today's statistics. Pile on Trump now, it's dangerous and fun, but when it comes time to vote, people may shrug off all the crazy stuff they've heard over the last 2 years, and vote based on the great old question "Are you better off now...?"



    As we get close to Election Day, and there are debates and ads, Republicans should just make the old Reagan move and strongly prod people to look at the economy. In a few seconds, the positive news can be strongly conveyed. And the "circus" that's been cluttering up the TV shows may be hard even to remember. I'm sure Democratic Party candidates will urge voters to look at what a circus it's been and hope to blame Trump and not the media for the circus, but I'm picturing debates where the Republican candidate will easily say: My opponent is trying to distract you with the circus show you've been watching in the news all year so you won't look at one big obvious fact — the economy is doing great.

    And one more thing, something even more drowned out than the economy. Trump defeated ISIS (NYT):
    The last vestige of the Islamic State’s caliphate that straddled Syria and Iraq is under attack. Members of an American-backed coalition said Tuesday that they had begun a final push to oust the militants from Hajin, Syria, the remaining sliver of land under the group’s control in the region where it was born. The assault is the final chapter of a war that began more than four years ago after the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, seized vast tracts in Iraq and Syria and declared a caliphate. The group lost its last territory in Iraq last year....

    Posted by Ann Althouse at 4:04 PM [​IMG]
    Tags: ISIS, polls, Reagan, Trump economics, Trump's war on terror, voting
     
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    What they're talking about here is a known phenomenon in surveying.
    There are several names for this, in America it's usually called the Bradley effect.
    In this case the effect is not based on race(both white) but it's still a good way to describe what happened.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect

    "The Bradley effect is a theory concerning observed discrepancies between voter opinion polls and election outcomes in some United States government elections where a white candidate and a non-white candidate run against each other"


    The idea behind the Bradley effect is based on Social desirability bias
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias

    "social desirability bias is a type of response bias that is the tendency of survey respondents to answer questions in a manner that will be viewed favorably by others."

    On a personal note, from my own personal experience it seems that social media just makes it even worse in this case.
     
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    The amazing thing... still 45% don't think trump is lying about russia?

    Voters are growing uneasy over the probes swirling around Trump, as a clear majority believe he hasn't been honest: NBC-WSJ poll
    • A robust 62 percent majority say Trump has not been honest about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign, up from 56 percent in August.
    • Just 38 percent say they would probably or definitely vote for the president if he seeks a second term, while 52 percent say they'd probably or definitely vote for the Democratic candidate.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/16/vot...probes-question-his-honesty-nbc-wsj-poll.html
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    Republican women still seem to like the Donald

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/women-who-love-trump-11545264804?mod=hp_opin_pos2

     
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    Wow... a WSJ op-ed by a conservative. Since its behind a firewall, can't see the source of the survey data, or the questions asked, or if the makeup of the survey respondents. Most polls of women suggest women overall oppose trump (and increasingly so) and would favor any other candidate including Warren and even Clinton. So perhaps the ep-ed's poll was limited to a specific segment of women (eg white republican women).
     
  20. Os Trigonum

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    I quoted the entire article
     

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