[Long-winded Rant] South Africa: An Omen For America?

You are just mad because the video actually brings up good points. Or it is more likely you didn't watch it because you think everyone that is left of Stalin is a nazi. I posted it primarily to trigger the easily offended. I had a feeling a few CF people would spend their energy attacking this. Which is easier to do I guess because you can't actually compete in the market place of ideas regarding the thread's main issue.

 

You do realize that all of this is just making excuses for actual racists right?

 

Lol a guy wanting racial segregation in the USA is not radical I guess...

How dare I think a Jewish Conspiracy promoter be an actual Nazi...

Also, lol, being left of Stalin would be quite a feat.

Right, because it's a terrible source. I don't think anyone here is triggered. I'm just disappointed that people are going to random youtubers for sources of information and then trusting them as fact. I'd like to think there are better sources out there than a guy that thinks women destroy civilizations.

I mean this is like trusting your calculus education to a guy that doesn't know how to divide.

Oh, you were just trying to 'Trigger dem libs' huh? And people wonder why political discourse is so trashy nowadays.

All I've done is stay on topic?

Who are you talking about? I didn't even name anyone in the post?

 

This is called trolling. It is frowned upon here. It lowers the level of discourse, debate, and discussion. You've admitted to trolling. Hopefully, it was a one-time offense from you.

 

It is not trolling. It is seeing how you handle ideas that you disagree with. Particularly well put together videos. It is not my problem that people here cant control their responses. Knowing a few people cant handle something doesnt mean I troll. I also put the link there for others interested in learning more.

 

You admitted to the definition of trolling. Even in your attempt to walk it back now, you are admitting you posted to see people's reaction. It was absolutely trolling. It's a racist site and you posted it in an effort to get a reaction. You've admitted as much.

 

You know you are defending systematic racism by making excuses for South African leaders who openly go for specific races and also will not rule out ethnic genocide. You are playing it cool but your responses show everything.

 

You are trying to attack me personally because you have no argument. Nice try.

 

You're not very good at this.

 

Zimbabwe started with compensation, then it moved onto a set low compensation phase, then the courts were tied up in what would have been decades of litigation, then Mugabe knocked out the lawsuits, and then the violence happened, legalised no compensation evictions, and the economic collapse continued unabated. And it wasn't like Mugabe set out to go that way, it was more a result of continuing corruption on his side, leading him to use targeting white people to drum up support in spite of the failings within their economy.

So they aren't that unalike, they're just 2-3 decades behind behind and are moving onto the litigation for decades phase, and really it was only one person who prevented it, and he's been gone 5 years now. There's a joke that Zuma was too busy stealing from black people to bother with white people, so yeah the ANC is using this to increase support, and its working. If the ANC continues down the corruption route, like Mugabe it'll need a scapegoat, especially when they end up bogged down in court.

What do you mean by without land reform? The country has had a land reform act since 1994, most of the land being urban which has led a huge uptick in home ownership rates, this issue is predominantly because the government won't offer prices that are in any way reasonable (as in 10% of its value) for farming land, that it had sold to them originally (which is part of why the law includes compensation, ergo, take land, sell to people, buy back land, return to people), also part of it is the government is aware of the massive loss in economic performance and the knock on to the general economy that had made it unwilling to force it in the past, so if that happens, the economy will be impacted, likely perpetuating the cycle

 

Yeah it has to do with arguing in a thread. We use things to prove our point. I did want to see the thoughts and reactions of the people I am debating. Get over it, you overly sensitive busy body.

Also I do find some of your responses amusing. Cannot help it. The hypocrasy and ignorance of people defending this is too much.

 

You didn't convince me - work on it.

 

I'm not attacking you at all. I'm talking about what you yourself admitted about your posts.

 

Debate is largely about convincing the people watching or reading... I do not care about you specifically. Suit yourself.

 

yeah sure buddy.

 

It's odd that you talked about others being overly-sensitive.

 

Oh look, some of you took this off topic. How convenient. Let's get back to the topic shall we. Someone here mentioned that the farmers tried to hard ball the government which wanted to initially buy their land. So why can't the South African government do what the U.S. government does when it takes land without permission via Eminent Domain? In this process, the U.S. government will at the minimum pay the assessed value of the property being taken without permission. Not hard to do. Compensation would not only be more fair, but seem to be along the lines of trying to rectify the situation in a legal way. Still, the move would be racially motivated, but why do you think this option is not done and instead the government opts to take the land?

 

Oh look, evidence you are trolling.

 

okayyyyy.....

 

As I am whiter than the freshly driven snow, my ancestors (at least on once side of the family, the other was from non-slave states) were running the plantation and worked wherever they pleased but your response is illustrative of your mouthbreather mindset.

I showed your post to my wife, though, and both had a laugh at your misdirected Neanderthal racism.

Swing and a miss.