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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Cohens guilty pleas are about Cohen's crimes. There is one about Stormy Daniels. There are 8 in total. None are about collusion.

    Mueller is trying to leverage those guilty pleas but the pleas have been out there since August
     
  2. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    Are you dense?

    -Putin and his agents offer to help get Trump elected via online attacking campaign.
    -Approve the Moscow trump tower,
    -Putin gets the penthouse.
    -Russia gets their sanctions lifted.

    Collusion, also know by its legal name "Aiding and abetting computer crimes" and "Conspiracy to defraud the United States". We also get a freebie in the campaign finance law felony, because of the idiotic Stormy Daniels fiasco.

    Whether you want to believe it or not, these people are going to jail.
     
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    We can also add obstruction of Justice.
     
  4. MojoMan

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    Does .. unindicted co-conspirator ... ring any bells?

    Troll on, bother, troll on.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Okay bro where is your proof of Putin telling he will help him? If you know about this on clutchfans why hasn't Trump been charged?
     
  7. MojoMan

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    Do they have to prove there was actually a conspiracy first? Or does that just go without saying, as long as we are talking about someone regarded as an adversary by the Democrat left and most of the mass media?
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    So did Trump try to hide potential business in Russia? You do know Americans do business there right?
     
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    Apparently they regard it as treason for anyone they regard as a political adversary to engage in commerce with or speak with a Russian.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Contributing Member
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    surprised no discussion of the comments that Alan Dershowitz made?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...looking-political-sin/?utm_term=.c6f99c7c801e

     
  11. larsv8

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    Don't need proof of Putin, only his agents, which we have in Cohen's testamony and the recovery of Sater's emails.

    Trump can't be charged, he is a sitting president.
     
  12. No Worries

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    The charge was wrt making illegal campaign contributions to Trump's extra-martial flings. Cohen pleaded to the conspiracy.
     
  13. MojoMan

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    That was bullshit. Just because Cohen claims to have broken the law by making illegal campaign contributions, nobody of note who understands how these laws works has suggested that Trump's campaign in any way violated the law by receiving the benefit of these payments.

    If that is what even happened, which it really wasn't. It is not illegal or even improper to pay someone not to tell their story.

    Talk about a snipe hunt. LOL.
     
  14. No Worries

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    This is just speculation from Alan Dershowitz, right? IIRC Alan Dershowitz has no inside information (or at least that is his claim).

    Maxine Waters has impeachment related claims against Trump, also without any insider knowledge like Dershowitz.

    No one takes Waters seriously. Likewise no one should take Dershowitz seriously.
     
  15. Os Trigonum

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    well, okay then :rolleyes:
     
  16. adoo

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    there you again, playing dumb !

    i know that you know that Trump has been identified as an unnamed co-conspirator

    • in Cohen Aug guilty plead, Trump was identified as Candidate1
    • in the most recent Cohen guilty plead, Trump was identified as individual1



    that's because the senile one no longer has credibility, just like the over-the-hill Rudi

    senility has gotten the best of them
     
  17. Os Trigonum

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    kinda renders 4835+ posts in this thread moot, no? ;)
     
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    You are not correct. I would give you an explanation, but you will likely just deflect.
     
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    If this investigation continues he won't be sitting long.
     
  20. MojoMan

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    You will not give me an explanation, because you do not have a plausible explanation to give. Cohen paid off Stormy Daniels to not tell her story to the press. For that to actually be a campaign contribution, there has to be no other plausible reason for the expenditure. In this case, Trump has his personal and business reputation that he is concerned with, not to mention his relationship with his wife.

    It is fascinating that nobody has presented this to the Federal Election Commission, which is the body that actually has authority and jurisdiction over the policing of campaign contributions. Why not? Because they know that the FEC would not regard this as an actual campaign contribution.

    But if anyone believes that it was, they can still pursue the matter with the FEC. Please let us know if that ever happens, will you? You know they would if they thought that it was a legitimate charge.
     

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