[The Otto Porter Movement] First it was just an afterthought, then came the movement, and now....

The issue with Porter isn't getting him more shots..... there are plenty of shots to be had in Washington. The problem is that Porter doesn't really want to shoot more and you are not going to convince him to start shooting more. He is a role player that likes taking open shots in the flow of the offense, he is not a volume shooter. So he is not suddenly going to start taking 8-9 threes a game.... it just won't happen. So as a result his value in Houston is somewhat limited.

Defensively you will hear his supporters say that he is a solid defender. The reality is that he is an inconsistent defender and has been pulled late in games this season because of his defense. Having said that, he is on the absolute worst team in the league to judge defensively. I do think that he would be a solid defender in a structured system like the Rockets have. However he is a shut down defender and never will be one.

Last, he is arguably better as a 4 in the system the Rockets run.

You make good points about his salary issues. I cannot see the Rockets taking him if it is a salary dump by the Wizards.

The Rockets are far more likely to go after Morris (who they have already discussed), Oubre, Satoransky or Rivers.

 

Porter makes the Rockets better. I don't think that is debatable.

The issue with Porter is money and expectations.

 

Just like Trevor Ariza. You answered your own question.

Defensively, there are more similarities than Otto, who is basically Martell Webster. All 4 of which you don’t want to be paying $30,000,000 too. Stanley shoots some bad shots in Detroit, but atleast he is a dawg. We can work with his effort and intensity.

Are you sure Otto can play against GSW? His history has not shown that he can handle the heat. He is an average defender AT BEST. 30 millly for a mediocre defender that refuses to shoot? Hmm.

 

The very moment my Otto Porter post in the Otto thread turned into a Winslow thread with Capela disappearing.

I got Rubio-ed.

 

Morris and/or Satoransky would be good pick ups and more of Morey's style.

 

Basically, If Otto busts with the Rockets our cap flexibility is screwed to hell for years.

Is Otto Porter worth that risk? I’d say Jimmy Butler might have been, but Otto Porter? We are reaching. Again, Joe Ingles is twice the player. You don’t pay Jingles that kind of money either.

 

Rubio, Zeller. Winslow, Porter, Aldrich, Maker, Whiteside, Dinwiddie, WhiteguyfromMavs, Zhou Etc...

Holic’s island of misfit toys... Happy Holidays y’all!

 

Can Otto play defense?

 

Markieff Morris!

 

I opined that Porter would be put in a better position in MDA's offense to provide more scoring output. If what you are saying is more likely, then yeah, at that contract you might have to pass on Porter. You only go after Porter if he can become more than what he is now in that Wiz offense. I think he can, but perhaps not.

@Nook mentioned Markieff Morris. He is expiring and getting him off the books seems likely since they are in the LT. Morris could be a solid backup 4/5 for the Rockets if you are looking to add bench depth that can contribute.

 

Rivers believe it or not would be a good fit. He's shooting like crap this year but have to hope that's a fluke. He's a solid defender as well and has big game pride. He's not a wing though so it would be a little tough to get him consistent minutes.

Markieff is a solid but unspectacular player. Any of those guys obviously helps, except I'm not sure Oubre is better than any wing we have now.

 

Just as long as we don't end up with the Morris Minor.

 

Nah, not even close to Ariza offensively. Ariza has a career TS of 53%, Johnson has one of 46% thats a massive difference and keep in mind thats not comparing elite to average, that is comparing slightly below average to horrendous.

 

In a vacuum with Rivers I am with you. But in terms of "team chemistry" pretty hard to ignore Rivers BS last year with the Clippers as it related to the Tunnel Game. I know Trevor isn't here now (for now?) but still. Rivers and Blake. nah.

 

In basketball, it's a lot easier to reign in someone's aggressiveness than it is to ignite a fire under them. People think we're going to feature Porter and that's just not his game. We ran a lot of pick and pops for Ryno his first year here and we still couldn't get consistent offense out of him. Ryno's a much more proven scorer than Porter is, he led the league in three point makes in 11-12 and once averaged 20ppg in New Orleans. CP3 and Harden can make your life easier, but they can't turn you into something you're not.

We don't need, nor can we expect, Porter to score in bunches or create plays so is his defense alone worth $27M plus trade kicker? There is no way Tilman would okay it. Morey is a buy low guy, not a break the bank at any chance to improve the team guy.

 

Go look up Ariza’s TS% his first few seasons. Stanley is far from a sure thing, but so is Otto, who is going to be making superstar money.

Dork Elvis is far more likely to roll the dice ALA KJ Mac, than to shell out 30 million on Martell Webster’s... (Hopefully a bit more promising than KJ though )

 

I agree with practically everything. I think he could be a "solid defender" within a role player role. I think in our system he could be a decent, not great but not bad defender who is a very good shooter.

I also would imagine he would be at the 4 a lot. But, why overpay in assets and vastly overpay in salary with absurd luxury tax implications when you could get Markieff for a fraction of the cost?

I much prefer Markieff who is a better defender and can hit the spot up 3 at a respectable rate.

Hes not a great shooter, but neither was tucker. We dont value 3pt efficiency because the market overvalued it. Instead we value defense and hope the offense and system inflates his efficiency.

Hes shooting 33% this year but 36% the previous 2 years. Stick him in our offense and hope it jumps back up to 36%.

 

It doesnt matter, I dont want a 4th year Ariza on my team, it doesnt move any needle whatsoever, especially a dude who is shooting below 30% from 3 this season, Draymond would love for him to be here.

 

Sheesh. Well written post. /Thread...

 

Hmm, not arguing about any of this, but I just wanna say that PJ has always been very good at the corner three which is where more of his threes come from.