[The Otto Porter Movement] First it was just an afterthought, then came the movement, and now....

yeah but we already have james ennis who might be equally good or even better at fraction of the cost
27 million or whatever he is paid is a huge NO NO
i would rather morey find someone in g-league, europe or china or somebodys NBA bench player that is cheap...every year there are awesome players there nobody wants until they are given chance and they break out

 

Otto Porter's Contract Is Even Tougher To Trade Than It Seems, Thanks To The Brooklyn Nets

 

I wonder if Morey would take a swing on Markieff Morris. Seems like a perfect backup to PJ

 

I don't think there's a chance in hell Porter becomes a Rocket.

Tillllman wouldn't fork over the tax money to keep Ariza , why would we expect him to fork over even more tax money to acquire a Porter ?

Not that I don't want it to happen , just don't believe it will. He simply makes too much money.

 

jesus christ.... he just isnt worth all that

 

They could reasonably do Porter and Beal for Lamb, MKG, Biyombo, and fillers.

 

He can waive his trade kicker in a trade. Theoretically he could even void his player option but I doubt he would.

 

I just mean it's possible lol. It's deck chairs on the Titanic for Charlotte, but whatever. They can shake it up just to shake it up.

 

I like porter. I do.

But everyone is blowing their wad trying to trade for a 40% 3 point shooter. Because that's all he is.

I agree, that last year he was incredibly efficient, but this is this year. And this year he isnt nearly efficient.

Hes never been a great defender and this year hes average at best.

He does not facilitate or create his own shot reliably.

He is a spot up career 40% 3pt shooter getting paid max level money. Max level money with one of the most trickiest contract structures to restrict trade and makes it incredibly more difficult on our luxury tax.

Yes, we could HOPE a change of scenery makes him this wonderful efficient machine again. But hes not going to magically get more shots here.

In this offense his role may diminish shot wise. The quality of looks likely improve, but the quantity really wont.

Which, is why morey doeant target high efficient 3pt shooters. They are always over valued. He targets defense and facilitation and Hope's their averages uptick within our offense.

To pay 30m (because that's the cost towards our cap due to structure) for 4-8 3pt shots at 40% is ludicrous.

Also, while yes your losing outgoing salary with knight, nene and chriss, not only are you upping your salary by 10m (6-7m + the 15% trade kicker). You also have to replace 2 roster spots. Even at the minimum salary that's an additional 3m.

So, you increase your overall salary towards the cap by 13-14m BEFORE luxury tax implications.

You have to pay a 1st just to move knight and another 1st to make them consider the package.

I'd rather give 2 1sts to sacremento for hield. I'd rather give Brooklyn a 1st for joe Harris. A lot of "40%" spot up shooters much cheaper and easier to acquire

I really really like Porter as a player. I think he would be a great fit. But...

he just is not what we need nor will be willing to pay for...

 

Let's just point out that this "not nearly as efficient" version of Porter through 16 games on a dysfunctional mess is at averages is still better right now than all but one of Trevor Ariza's seasons here.

 

I don't think he would waive either of them but you make a good point, he can do so without any consequence under the CBA.

The Wizards really do need to gut their team for assets and start over, sometimes the pieces don't fit and the players are not quite what was hoped.

They can get a pretty good amount of assets if they are smart about it and go into a complete rebuild and not only halfway.

 

Lotto Porter ain’t happening.

Codman mentioned a buy low on Stanley Johnson, who is a superior defender to Otto and is on a bit of an Ariza career trajectory. That makes a lot more sense. We are not paying 10s of million for F’ing Lotto Porter. Dream on, dream on, dream on, DREAM ON, DREAM ON Dream ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhonnnnnn.

 

Let’s take a second to point out that this is false, unless you just watch box scores, in which Dork Elvis believes you should be shot, or was it the inventor of the box score? Either way, wrong again numero 2.

Joe Ingles is better than Otto Porter in every single way, and there is no way in hell I’m paying Jingles $30,000,000 a year...

Also, some of you need to go watch Lotto defend. He isn’t that dude...

 

I mean, i guess Lamb could be considered decent value at best, but MKG and Biyombo are literally a 30M pile of trash with negative value...i guess the best offer Charlotte could do for both Beal and Porter would be Batum (another horrible contract but at least he's a decent/good player), Marvin, MKG, Bridges and 1st rounder/s...but that's a lot of garbage to eat for Washington, i like Bridges but eh...

 

Are you saying it's false that he's more efficient right now through 16 games than any season average of Trevor Ariza here except 1? Or are you saying what I said is false when really what you mean is that you don't like Otto Porter so you are just saying stats don't matter?

 

I missed this. I like that idea.

 

I have my doubts Tilman would ok this move too

How is Morey gonna convince him that it’s worth it paying what is close to a 3rd max contract on this team for Otto Porter for this year and 2 more years after that? It’s 1 thing to open up your wallet for a Jimmy Butler, it’s another thing entirely to do it for OP.

here he would just be a low usage, hyper efficient 3&okD player...he would no doubt help tho

 

Stanley Johnson is on a path of Trevor Ariza? He hasn't cracked 30% from 3 since his rookie year. He takes close to 5 threes a game right now and is under 30% for the 3rd straight year. Under 40% overall from the field.