So... if they go down from 60% of fatal crime to 50% of fatal crime, that's ok? Or from 55% of all violent crime to 45% of a violent crime, there are no issues in the community? Thank you for complimenting my intelligence. Didn't we already discuss referring to the constitution being a cop out for criminals to hide behind? Like the 2nd amendment is outdated, birthright citizenship is exploited time and time again, it's an outdated document that makes life worse for it's citizens today. Do you also think we should all own semi automatics incase the government invasion happens tomorrow? And they'll protect us from tanks and warheads? Why do the black cops pull over african americans at the same rate as white cops? All these cops stay in the same region and tend to be familiar with the problems relative to that region. I genuinely don't think gang activity in Chicago affects how a cop interacts with your average citizen (not in a gang hot spot) in Georgia. It has more to with the trends and crime of that area, and they know suspicious behavior relative to trouble makers. The fact that more happen to black isn't a surprise when you consider how much disproportionately higher the stats show they are on violent crime and fatal violent crime throughout the country. There will be wrongful convictions, but over 75%? Over 50%?
The % doesn't matter to me. It's like a guy that shoots 80% from the field for a season but shot 5 shots all season. It doesn't mean anything. If only 1% of the black population are murderers (as the numbers show) than what is the excuse to treat the other 99% as if they are violent criminals? Only ignorant people make definitive statements about things they know little about. Your entire argument was "BLAME RAP!" Yet the first thing you said about it "All popular rappers rap about violence!" said to me "I have no idea what I'm talking about but please take my opinion on the matter seriously." The blame rap thing is so stupid because rap hasn't been around for even 100 years and is a global music genre. If it's so toxic than why doesn't it have the same effect everywhere else? It's almost as if Rap, like any music genre and art medium, is a tool for artists to put out whatever message they'd like. Could be violent, could be sexual, could be happy and fun, it's just a tool for the musically inclined to use The constitution is the reason this country is what it is and has been what it has been. That all people are given the SAME rights is part of that constitution. If your idea is to tear it up and throw it away than maybe you should move to another country? I think gun rights can be amended as to keep crazy people from getting guns. That's it. I've said before that liberals should drop the fight against guns or at least a softer approach. I think the right to bear arms isn't inherently bad but obviously, we can't have citizens buying rocket launchers and stuff. In case of a civil war, you must realize that the military would split itself anyways, as is always the case and guerilla warfare is super effective. That's another discussion, but yes, citizens having basic arms would not hurt them in a fight against the government. The reason black cops pull over at the same rate is because you have people continuing to push the narrative that blacks are more violent and using stats to push that narrative. This is effective propaganda that has been used throughout history by your usual suspects. Yes, if you are black you can stereotype other black people. If you are white, you can still stereotype all white men as evil devils...so yes, you can be black and still buy into stereotypes that others push. I'm saying that these stats just encourage the stops and false convictions.
I don't have an issue being pulled over and searched by cops --- better to be safe than sorry. Soft on crime laws make neighborhoods more dangerous. I did not grow up in nice neighborhoods, living in the working middle class' lowest rungs and know I need the cops on my side. I will comply instead of antagonizing the situation and being passive aggressive. Black colleagues agree with me because this is about the greater whole, not my self importance. If overall violence levels go down, you'll see these searches go down. The problem lies with the lack of accountability amongst community leaders, not rap. If some rappers are part of that circle of influence, then it's on them to spread the right message instead of promoting violence and drugs as the only way out. Congrats to those who are doing so, and I can't really celebrate those who intentionally don't to keep their cred high and pretend like these factors don't devastate communities. Jason Riley of the WSJ has had the courage to delve into these topics, it is a must read: MLK: "We can't keep blaming the white man" A generation of blacks who have more opportunity than any previous generation are being taught that America offers them little more than trigger-happy cops, bigoted teachers and biased employers. It’s not only incorrect, but as King and a previous generation of black leaders understood, it’s also unhelpful. Black activists and liberal politicians stress racism because it serves their own interests, not because it serves the interests of the black underclass. But neglecting or playing down the role that blacks must play in addressing racial disparities can only exacerbate them. Fifty years after King’s death, plenty of people are paying him lip service. Far too few are following his example. Rather than scapegoat police, why not focus on bad schools and job killing regulations? What do you think modern society would look like if it were built by black minds? Stats reflect what officers see in the field every day. Soft on crime laws make it very hard for poor black neighborhoods to deem themselve safe, and it would be ignorant to say there isn't a greater tolerance of crime and violence in these places. If you, as a supposed leader of the community, put your energy into violence and drug use going down, we wouldn't be having this conversation. While I agree gang violence in places like Chicago skew the stats, they are still substantially dominated by african american males in I am doing my part, I need you to man up and do yours. Because it's not a racial issue here, where one race is predisposed to commit crime more than the other. It is a community narrative issue and a lack of accountability.
You just don't have sufficient information to speak about any of this. The idea that African Americans aren't doing anything or don't care about poor schools is total BS. Why do you think there is a large percentage of African Americans voting for Democrats. It's at least in part because they support funding the schools and investing in education for impoverished schools. Meanwhile, Republicans are on record as intentionally trying to keep African Americans from being able to vote. Also speaking out against discrimination from law enforcement and in the justice system isn't scapegoating anyone. It is an attempt to put the system in a more equitable position.
Did you have a point? Was there anything in my post that implied that I haven't? If you have a point make it, otherwise why are you quoting me?
Dude, you have no idea what you are asking for. There's a reason we have that in the constitution to prevent basically a big brother situation. It's hard to imagine you actually being a conservative and basically giving Law Enforcement a carte blanche to do whatever they like. There's a reason they need a reasonable cause to search people, it's so that the government doesn't grow so big that no one can question it. Stop bringing up 'Black colleagues' I don't care about your anecdotal friends or evidence. The black people I know would not agree with you that Law Enforcement should be able to pull over anyone at any time and that they should be searched. You really don't want to play the MLK quote game. Trust me on that. There are not many mainstream rappers that actually 'promote' selling drugs as a way out. You just misunderstand the meaning of songs and that most are stories or experiences told through song. Just like Godfather, Breaking Bad, or Scarface, they are just stories. How people take them...that's on each individual person. As for scapegoating police and this nonsense... @FranchiseBlade has it right. Black people DO focus on these things. BLM is focused on Law Enforcement just like Susan G Komen focuses on breast cancer. I have no reason to believe that it would be any different. I guess if you think black people are intrinsically different than you would think differently. I think this is more of a question that you need to ask yourself, it's not a very interesting question to me. There is 0 excuse, no matter how many you try to throw out there, for black people being exonerated at the rates they are and wrongfully convicted at the rates they are. I even have stories, one that I posted in a post before, of officers planting evidence to get their arrest. LOL! It's not a racial issue says the guy that brings it up constantly and asks me "What do you think modern society would look like if it were built by black minds?" I agree, it's not a racial issue, white males also commit a ton of crime. In the end though, about 1% of each race commits violent crime, you want an excuse to stereotype the 99% that doesn't. There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. Your stats don't say much my man, at the end of the day, 99% of the black population aren't violent criminals. You want to use the old fascist method of using stats to paint people as less human and violent, you have at it, just don't look confused when people call you racist.
I guess Dave Chapelle is a racist, for saying the exact same thing? Jason Riley is a sell out, for saying the exact same thing? Why are intelligent, successful men who keep it real always the enemy? It's not a race issue here, but the narratives within separate communities. If you want to tell yourself a society built by black minds be as inclusive and enticing as the one we have today, no one is stopping you. But the stats in non gang related areas (which are outliers), much lower test scores in integrated safe neighborhoods, tell a different story in addition to values the mainstream culture promotes. This becomes pretty clear with who makes money for saying what. Overcoming this is about working with communities in the government, not constantly demonizing them and the police. In your opinion, will kneeling during the anthem and drawing pigs on your shoes actually make a change? Who cares about the "talk it generates" at this time. It's capitalism. Socialism in America at least won't happen anytime soon because of the 0.1% who generate the capital, I'm not sure how you expect quality of life to improve if you don't start with the basics. You have to work with the system to get more distribution of wealth which is a huge issue. I am not part of the 0.1%, but I do know how they think. Control crime and children you can't afford by believing in nuclear families, and you can get a bigger slice of their pie through measures like universal income. As you know, just having a "job" isn't enough and automation will mean a lot of free hands in the coming decade.
Glad that you think he's an authority... Why are you choosing who to selectively listen to and who to ignore? Narratives are just narratives, they are not true, they are just narratives. They can be anything the people spreading them want them to be. You choose to spread a narrative that blames 99% of a population on the actions of 1%. That's your choice. Excuse me? Which stats are you talking about? I'm calling you out to provide your data because I quite frankly think you've pulled it out of thin air. I don't know about such stats, either way, I'm not sure they would answer a theoretical question as big as you posed. They are just stats, numbers without context are just numbers. You're adding the context to them. This would be like trying to use stats to argue for some alternative history in which Germany won WW2. Like I said, the question you posed isn't really that interesting to me. It's alternative history and the question "Would black minds..." seems more to dip into race realism non-sense. Sometimes the government needs to be demonized and the police needs to be criticized. History is pretty clear about this. The founders stance on challenging power is pretty clear about this. When you have people that are constantly stopped and checked to see if they are criminals and who also are wrongfully convicted and exonerated at a much higher degree...THEN on top of that a prison system that profits off of their labor...well then, I think that is a time to criticize the government. You are what MLK would call, a white moderate. Someone who is more concerned about order than justice. Capitalism, socialism...America has a mixed economy, like most first world countries. Well, pretty much all American women have children at the same rates, as I've shown before. No one is really against controlling crime or softening police. The entire conversation is based upon fixing government so that the police are not actually feared. That's all. And yes, the increasing automation will not make things better unless we all find solutions as to what to do with those free hands. That's an idea though that's so far away from what we're discussing, and trust me, I'd love to discuss it. I love looking into the future and wondering how things might be...but in the end, I don't think it is a racial issue but a people issue. This thing with Law Enforcement and the Justice system, this is a racial issue, unfortunately.
I wonder where she will go? Will Fox take her back or will another left leaning outlet take a chance on her? I do not think she would be satisfied with just getting the money because I believe she truly enjoys being in front of the camera.
Oh, I can't stand that guy. I had no idea he did podcast . I thought he was irrelevant these days. Actually I pretty much don't pay attention to anyone on the cable news networks, Fox or otherwise. I only watch for debates and election returns or sometimes when my in-laws come visit who think cable news should be on from sunrise to sunset.
What? Your in-laws sound terrific! I keep cable news, except for Fox, on in every room, 24/7! Wolf Blitzer - woof! woof! Morning Joe - Mika's big boobers! Rachel Maddow - love those suits! Chris Cuomo - oh no! No! Fox? Zero. O! (Happy Thanksgiving!)
Glenn Beck did the same. I believe Judge Napolitano did the same. All of the cable news networks are terrible. I like Scott Adams podcasts. While I dont always agree with everything he says, his opinions tend to belong to him and not a party.
