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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by PWR, Nov 12, 2018.

  1. PWR

    PWR Member

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    Trying to use Gobert in your example kills your own argument. He's at 52% (average)...Utah is 20th in defensive efficiency. He has not been elite this year. Using Ariza kills your argument too. He's at 59% (horrible), contributing to Phoenix being 27th in defensive efficiency.
     
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  2. PWR

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    My fault, I honestly forgot about Melo.

    He's giving up 50.9% shooting to opps. About average.
     
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    Big Fax bro. Men lie, women lie, STATS don't.
     
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  4. heypartner

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    Right. Gobert has just forgot how to play defense this year. Even Melo is better.

    It's not my argument. DFG% stats are not a good indicator. That is pretty much accepted by everyone who knows how analytics are used by the teams. That's not an argument.
     
  5. PWR

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    Gobert's previous 2 years, he was around 45% and 42%. Utah had top 3 defenses those years. He's slacking in individual defense this year, and the team defensive rankings (from top 3 to now at 20) show it.
     
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    Ennis should be coming off the bench for 20 mins or so and gradually groomed into a starter.

    He is put in an unfamiliar role and place.

    And dude needs to stop fouling.
     
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    Ennis is cheeks.
     
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    Deckard Blade Runner
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    I've been disappointed in Ennis, so far. I'm hoping that when Jeff B. actually gets his mitts on this team's defense, that Ennis will find a productive role, be pushed into a productive role, whatever it takes - heck, however Bzdelik decides to use him defensively, that he steps up. He's not the only one that could use some direction from Coach Bzdelik. Fingers crossed.
     
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  9. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Ennis is kind of a ghost out there at times. Not necessarily BAD, but.....just there. I mean the last two games against the Spurs and Pacers. His scoring is 1pt and 0pts. That needs to be up around 8ppg as a constant. We cant have games where starters Tucker and Ennis are giving us like 8ppg TOTAL.

    I know Ennis job is more defensive, but we need more offensively as well.
     
  10. sirjesse

    sirjesse The Udoker has spoken!
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    You getting old when you feel you have to put the name of your pun on, because you are afraid 75% of the audience is too young to know. I bet Melo knows the fall guy!
     
  11. heypartner

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    Or Gobert isn’t impervious to a 10 game span like this in any given year.

    This is a worthless stat. No teams use it, and Morey takes it further saying there is not any individual defensive stats he finds useful.

    But have fun with it. I do. Isaiah is our Best Defender!! 20% Better than Rudy Gobert.
     
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    Absolutely. What bothers me is that the one thing he's supposed to be good at, defense, is yet another issue with the guy. What happened to the player that I saw play good man defense against Harden last season? Maybe I was hallucinating. His offense is MDA's department, which is currently in the same shape Sear's is in. That's not a compliment. The team seems disjointed in general. I'm hesitant to single out any player in particular, when almost everyone seems lost half the time. But yeah, Ennis's offense has earned him spot minutes based on matchups, not a starting gig, in my opinion. It's one of the reasons I'm rooting for Clark. At least he's solid when he gets minutes. Remarkably solid, considering where he's coming from - an undrafted rookie.
     
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    Thread should be called “just facts, no context”. Those individual defense numbers are meaningless. Small sample and doesn’t tell the whole story. The Hartenstein figure in particular is just not reflective of reality. He’s not an elite defender.
     
  14. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Dig hard enough and you can probably find metrics saying that AB was a better defender than Lowry. Stats are typically worthless when one lacks the context, sample size, or ability to properly use them.
     
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    I think he was intended to be the Luc replacement but they couldn't get a starter level wing so here we are...very similar to when we signed Ariza the first time and asked him to be a playmaker - didn't work out so well until we brought him back into a role he was actually capable of filling.
     
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    best case scenario was he's going to be a replacement for either one. didn't really matter.the big thing was just for him to be that guy to be a dependable starter and fill that role on a nightly basis. instead hes limited due to being so foul prone and not as big of a 3 point gunner that this team needs in that spot.
     
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    If it's useless why is it recorded? What use DOES it have?
     
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    "Hartenstein - giving up 35.4%. Elite."

    sh't like this actually is why there are so many people will love to watch garbage like First Take.

    because they are f'ucking idiots and can't even think and analysis anything.
     
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    Melo: "KAWHI LEONARD......AIN'T GOT NOTHIN'....ON ME!!!!"
     
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    The facts are this.

    The biggest issue the Rockets have is not Ennis, Melo, whoever else. It is CP3.

    I promise if CP3 starts playing like a top 5 PG again CONSISTENTLY we'll end with homecourt in the playoffs. That's the biggest issue here...also, Harden has kind of been on and off. Last year these two guys dominated night in and night out.
     
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