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Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. DonnyMost

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    Culberson getting sh*tcanned made my night.
     
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  2. B-Bob

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    Disgusting, especially all the stunts. But she ran a good race, IMHO. Brave woman for sure.

    Kemp is just scum, pure.
     
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  3. amaru

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    Agreed. CNN leans democratic
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Dems dropped a lot of the sexy, high profile races, but a LOT of Tea Party goobers got their pink slips and a ton of liberal initiatives passed (including FL4, which basically means no Republican will win a statewide race in Florida for the foreseeable future). It's not a bottle popping night, but a win is a win. 2020 is shaping up to be a real R bloodbath.
     
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    It basically played out like I expected. The Democrats will keep one or two more senate seats than I expected but lost a couple governor races I thought they would win. The house went Democratic as I expected.

    I’m sure there will be gloating from partisans on both side but it was about what was expected.
     
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    Ed Emmett is losing by 6k votes with 87% in. I don’t live in Harris Cty but this seems like a big upset.
     
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    From my perspective, I dont think racism or lies were the deciding factor for this Senate seat. I am not a pundit so I could be wrong. I think Beto ran a hell of a campaign and should be applauded. He has a bright future. I would think the kavanaugh allegations and the way trump is treated in the media played a bigger role along with the economy and Cruz's stance on energy.

    I guess you called me out because you consider me an uneducated voter? I wouldn't consider myself uneducated in many regards but it is true that I didn't study these candidates thoroughly. Congratulations on the House. It will be an interesting 2 years and I hope both sides get along better than they recently although unlikely.
     
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    Michigan got weed .

    With Texas looking bluer than before , and a caravan of drug crazed migrants about to bust in the state .... is there any hope for legal herb in Texas in 2020 ?
     
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    Considering that the party that wins the presidency doesn't do too well in the midterm the GOP actually did pretty well. Obama lost 60 plus house seats and 6 senate seats in his first term. Every GOP senator should line up and kiss trump's feet. The man is that powerful.
     
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  10. snowconeman22

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    Obama also had more to lose .

    He really carried a massive majority in 08 . If there is one thing that I blame Obama for , it's for not being aggressive enough and doing more with the numbers that he had . He tried too hard to be bipartisan when the entire republican strategy was to obstruct at all costs .
     
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  11. Corrosion

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    Anyone who didn't see that coming is either blind or dumb. The odds were heavily against the GOP maintaining control with so many contested seats just as maintaining the Senate was a virtual lock for them.

    I'm happy with the results - we'll see two more years of gridlock , no partisan bullsh!t from either side which is great. Checks and balances -
    No legislation is a hell of a lot better than bad legislation and bad legislation is generally what we get when one party has control. Take ACA as an example - Dem House 257 to 199 , Dem Senate 60 to 39.
     
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    No I called you out because I thought it was my best chance for a serious response.

    My question was more about looking back, would you go back in a time machine and say “I’d rather have taken my chances running on the economy”, and let the chips fall where they may?

    Let’s face it.. the ads and the campaign led by Trump was pure racism. His ads by the end were even blocked by FoxNews for crying out loud. Knowing now what the outcome is would you take a chance doing it a different way?
     
  14. Air Langhi

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    Except people don't want to get rid of obamacare anymore. Obama should have really gone for single payer when he had a chance. Once he got it passed no chance it would have ever been repealed.
     
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    We probably agree here on the bottom line , just not why or how we get there.


    To the bold - agree 110% , mainly because I think ACA is such a terrible law and the fact that we aren't going backwards on this subject - the only way forward is single payer.

    There's considerable support to have ACA repealed - just know that its not happening , the GOP ran on repeal and replace for 7+ years then didn't have anything to replace it with. If they really wanted it done , they'd have done it. It was nothing more than a political rallying cry with no sincerity.
    (I believe "build a wall" was a similar rallying cry to fire up the base with no intentions of actually doing it.)

    They did repeal the individual mandate which to me was the most revolting part of the bill. Its not as bad as it was but what it did was essentially give care to 20m that didn't have it while stripping care from an untold number that did previously as a result of increased rates - people like me who pay out of pocket for HC insurance and have been priced out of the market as my premiums went up to ridiculous rates.

    (my wife is also an insurance executive)

    I'd honestly like to see the insurance industry removed from the healthcare equation completely as they take up a significant portion of the funding and they add literally no value to any service other than as a collection agent - We can administrate healthcare funding without it costing us ~40% of our total budget. More spending on actual care and less on non-essentials.
     
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    Bingo.... A lot of wisdom from this poster.
     
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    I'm 33 but old enough to remember when CNN was thought of as fairly impartial, if not a little too lenient on the Republicans. This was in the Clinton era running up to the Bush-Gore election and the hanging chad debacle. Ever since Fox News debuted in the late 90's, all reasonable assessment has gone flying out the window. You're either as flaming and malignant as they are--and as political talk radio has been since I've been an adolescent--or you're the enemy, and you've gotta be liberal if you're the enemy.

    It's a dumb and fruitless conversation to have these days, try to go all McCarthyist on the media. Now Trump is out there calling everything from the AP to even Fox News as Fake News. It's just anybody who calls out his lies. Everyone's dug into their position, a long time ago. There's no more room for debate, we know where we each stand just by eyeballing each other.
     
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    So we have a 27 year old lawyer running harris county? Are you kidding?
     
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    Let me just reiterate how uniquely terrible this bit of self-soothing armchair analysis by @Supermac34 is:

    Republican incumbents in competitive districts getting their asses kicked - off the top of my head

    Barbara Comstock
    Scott Taylor
    Dave Brat
    Pete Roskam
    John Culberson
    Pete Sessions
    Kevin Yoder
    Rod Blum
    Staten island guy
    Random Oklahoma guy
    Florida people
    Jersey dudes

    And probably more...

    9 term congressman getting smoked. Losing 30~ seats.

    But sure...it was just retirements.

    That's all it was!
     
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  20. dachuda86

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    GREAT assessment... sad but true. Everyone in the media also is hyper partisan because they want that audience share. I have little faith in news coverage when the people are financially making whatever move helps their bottom line. But that then leaves a huge need unmet... Impartial covereage.I remember the rise of Fox during the Bush era which completely changed things for the worst. What is disheartening is watching CNN sink to their level instead of rising above it.
     
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