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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 19, 2018.

  1. Nick

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    A non-star MLB player that’s part of a multiplayer blockbuster trade is filler.

    Unless a team is specifically trading for Peacock, he’s filler.

    It’s not really an indictment of him, it’s just who he is right now.
     
  2. Nick

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    Actually Houston moved up to #7 this year while Boston fell to 10.
     
  3. Hey Now!

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    Goldschmidt is criminally undervalued at just $14.5MM. So much so that they could probably deal for him *and* still add Nelson Cruz, assuming Cruz would settle for a one-year deal in the $10-15MM range.
     
  4. Hey Now!

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    Why are we talking about Mike Fiers? ... Oh, you mean Brad Peacock?....

    If the Diamondbacks are going to burn their organization to the ground, I can't see them having much value in a 31-year old starter/reliever hybrid. To a team like the Astros, or any other viable contender? Yes, sure. But if this were 2012, and Arizona offered us Peacock, we'd all view him as filler, a guy to eat innings while the team is terrible who'll likely be gone by the time the team is good.
     
  5. sealclubber1016

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    The only way I think the Astros go after Nelson Cruz is if they really trust Tyler White as an almost full time first baseman. If I was a betting man, I would say Tyler White will be at least as good as 39 year old Nelson Cruz will be, he will be basically free, and under team control long term. At his age Cruz feels more like a gamble than adding a proven slugger. Granted I certainly wouldn't be opposed to adding Cruz, but I don't think he would make me feel too much better about the 2019 team. We would still have question marks in RF,LF,C and 1B/DH to a degree.
     
  6. Redfish81

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    I don't know if that is true. I don't think the Astros will have as much to spend as people think. Yes, they have money coming off the books. However, the Astros have nearly 20 million in added payroll from arbitration increases and salary raises alone. If the McCullers Tommy John rumors are true that means 5 million of the payroll is dead money. Then the Astros have to decide what to do with Morton and Marwin. If they keep both that will probably be 27-30 million in payroll combined. That doesn't leave much to get to last years payroll level, and you still need a catcher and probably a lefty in the pen plus the money for GoldSchmidt or signing a Nelson Cruz.
     
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  7. SKYGODZ187

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    Alot of sports writers think they have 1 or 2 big moves to make if they can move somethings around.

    Yuli and Reddicks name have been mentioned as cash movers. And they think Springer moves over out of CF. Belief is Straw will get a shot and if and I mean if they keep Tucker he goes to RF.

    But what do they know?

    I tend to agree. A move of Grienke and Goldshmidt is better then resigning Keuchal. Dallas isnt the same player on the mound. And who ever signs him will get a big reality check once he gets on the mound.
    I'd rather do the QO and move on. Keep Marwin and Morton and try and do some finagling trades.
    Could you imagine Adding Grienke and Goldschmidt. Then Realmuto and Miller and Britton???
    You talking about a turn over....
     
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  8. bobrek

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    Links to some of these sports writers?
     
  9. Joe Joe

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    If we got Peacock in 2012, Astros would view him as someone they could trade to a viable contender. 2012 Astros could possibly get a pitching prospect outside the Top 100 that has stuff, but is coming off an injury within the last year.
     
  10. Nick

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    So, you're suggesting we get a time machine, go back to 2012, and then trade him for Zack Greinke?

    It doesn't matter what his previous prospect status was. Yes, he's a viable contributor... as are a lot of 30-something MLB players... but they're still classified as filler when it comes to being packaged in mega deals for stars (that likely includes prospects).

    As it is, there's not much to discuss here... its not like its an actual trade. Nor would I see Arizona having much use for him.
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

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    The Astros traded for Brad Peacock in 2013. Chris Carter too. They also signed Rick Ankiel that offseason.

    Good times.
     
  12. Nick

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    Was that the seventh or eight time that Oakland and Houston swapped Jed Lowrie?
     
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  13. Hey Now!

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    Right; except here, the Diamondbacks would be in the midst of literally trading with a contender. And Goldschmidt is better than Peacock. So why take on four months of Brad Peacock in a deal for your best asset when you can just reject the idea and instead ask for a pitching prospect outside the Top 100 that has stuff, but is coming off an injury within the last year, using Goldschmidt, rather than Peacock, as your leverage?

    We may be arguing semantics. I think Peacock has value; I don't think he'd have much value from a rebuilding Diamondbacks, though.
     
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    Sign eovaldi please
     
  15. Marteen

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    Anyone else worried about Eovaldi's mechanics? There are some pitchers that can make throwing gas look effortlessly, I'd be worried about Eovaldi's arm falling off in a couple of years.
     
  16. bobrek

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    He is not an Astro. I am not worried at all.
     
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  17. Nick

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    Its very similar to how Wade Miller used to throw the ball.

    As it is, Eovaldi's had 3 major arm surgeries in his career. Its nothing new. The Red Sox aren't likely to be making a long-term commitment to him, thus they have no problems using him as much as humanly possible right now.
     
  18. Senator

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    Reddick has a lot of value, but only to a contender. Yuli, with his horrible OPS and passable defense, not so much value to anyone.

    A big bat, whether it is in the form of a catcher like ramos or a DH like cruz will do a lot for the team.

    One of the big 3 - scherzer, degrom, Syndergaard is also worth throwing a premium prospect like tucker at in addition to lower ceiling value like McCullers.

    Exploit fire sales- very disappointing when they cldnt get anyone from the Marlins haul last offseason.
     
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  19. ApolloRLB

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    I predict that Keuchel is offered the QO but walks and is replaced by Gio Gonzalez.
     
  20. John Harvey

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    When can the Astros engage in negotiations with Keuchel?
     

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