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[Official] Texans @ Jaguars

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Oct 16, 2018.

  1. raining threes

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    Being so conservative with a lead is the main thing that bothers me about BOB.

    Watson playing with a punctured lung and large pads covering his ribs probably helped contribute to his inaccuracy. Although accuracy was an area he needed to work on before he got hurt.
     
  2. Texanstradamus

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    Now If the red zone defense can build off this ...
     
  3. Texanstradamus

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    I mean offense*
     
  4. Nimo

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    I just saw that the Titans lost because Vrabel decided to go for 2 when an XP would have tied the game. Can you imagine if O'Brien did that? Good to see his faith in his offense but that L might come back and haunt them.
     
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    *3-2
     
  7. donkeypunch

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    I know. Somebody already corrected it in the tweet reply but it was still funny
     
  8. Texanstradamus

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    Now we get the fins at home on a short week got to take advantage of this defense is playing really well keep this momentum going into the mini bye
     
  9. sealclubber1016

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    Somebody has to win this sorry ass division. I guess it will be us.
     
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  10. Hey Now!

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    All this rampant negativity...

    I wouldn't be planning a parade, obviously - but they have two very winnable games over the next 26 days. If they go into the bye 6-3, and Watson can get healed/healthy - the path to 10-11 wins is right in front of them.

    In terms of the postseason - which AFC teams are better? Kansas City and New England, obviously. After that?... Maybe the Chargers? They can probably win a first round playoff game and then who doesn't want to see a healthy Deshaun Watson in the playoffs again? My recollection is he does pretty well in those things....
     
  11. J.R.

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    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...tucker-nfl-fmia-week-7-peter-king/?cid=fmiatw

    Imagine the surprise of those people in Baton Rouge
    The starting quarterback of the Houston Texans, Deshaun Watson, walked into Fleming’s in Baton Rouge for a late dinner Friday night, four hours into his 13.5-hour trip from Houston to Jacksonville on Interstate 10. The team didn’t want to risk aggravating painful lung/rib injuries. So he bused (and bused home Sunday night and this morning) with two drivers, a Texans trainer, a team security official, and director of sports performance Luke Richessen, watching some tape, some TV, getting stretched, and sleeping. They arrived at their Jacksonville hotel at 9 a.m. Saturday. “I felt good today, so I guess it was the right call,” he said.

    The Texans have a short week before facing Miami on Thursday night. Assuming Watson does not re-aggravate the chest area, he should be back on the Texans charter for the 1,000-mile trip to Denver in 12 days. I asked Watson what changed between the 0-3 Texans and the Texans on the current four-game win streak. “We’re battle-tested,” he said. “Never count us out. I like the detail work we’re doing on both sides of the ball. There’s a great trust between the guys on this team.”
     
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    "The Texans won, that's all that matters. Don't you know winning football games is the hardest thing to do in all of human history?!" -BOB
     
  14. gucci888

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    - Blake Bortles is terrible.

    - DW4 was good but not great.

    - OL had their cleanest game of the season.

    - Clowney went to work and we had a Mercilus sighting.

    - Hopkins ate Ramsey's lunch.
     
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    Lmao I heard this

    Refuse to believe oline was good against their dline. Was it just an off game for the Jags?

    Clowney is either really good or he’s trying to get paid now.



    Thanks guys!
     
  16. leroy

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    You can't discount the reasons why many of us are a bit pessimistic. We have a coach that seems to refuse to know when it's time to put your foot on the opposition's throat. I realize that with a lead, he might be more conservative in trying to preserve his banged up QB...but this is something that's gone on for his entire tenure. He certainly didn't inherit that instinct to just bury the opponent from Belichick.

    I can see the path to possibly as good as 11-5. Not sure we win @ Redskins or @ Eagles. But we're likely favorites in the rest of those games. It's just really hard to be optimistic when you have a coach that's still playing not to lose even when they're winning.
     
  17. red5rocket

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    We’ve played Alex Smith every year it seems. I think we can slow him down. Plus, what we did to Zeke, we should be able to do to AP.
     
  18. gucci888

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    Well they also gave up 40 to a pretty putrid Cowboys' offense so thinking the defense just isn't all that great. But need to give some credit to our OL, Miller had some open lanes and went untouched on his redzone TD.
     
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  19. Nimo

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    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25049381/fixing-flaws-nfl-best-teams-anchors-2018-contenders
    Jacksonville Jaguars
    The anchor: Blake Bortles

    For the second time in 14 months, the Jaguars seem fed up with their starting quarterback. In August 2017, the Jags briefly benched Bortles during the preseason, only for then-backup Chad Henne to struggle during a Week 3 audition. The team went back to Bortles, who proceeded to have his best season as a pro and played well enough in the second and third round of the postseason to nearly help push the Jags into Super Bowl LII.

    After throwing for 376 yards and four touchdowns in Jacksonville's Week 2 win over New England this season, it seemed like Bortles had finally put the doubts to rest. Five games later, however, Bortles was benched for backup Cody Kessler in the middle of a dismal loss to the Texans. Over that time frame, Bortles posted a Total QBR of just 31, the lowest mark in the league among starters. He was 30th out of 34 signal-callers in passer rating, ahead of three rookies. The former third overall pick threw four touchdowns against six picks, took 13 sacks and fumbled four times, losing three. The Jags wanted someone who wouldn't turn the ball over. Bortles has been in The Bad Place.

    Even saying that, though, it would be naive to pretend that Bortles is the only issue with the Jacksonville offense, which has been ripped to shreds by injuries. Starting wideout Marqise Lee went down with a season-ending knee injury in the preseason. Former fourth overall pick Leonard Fournette was already out with a hamstring injury during the Patriots game, and since then he has managed only an 11-carry cameo during Jacksonville's win over the Jets. Receiving back Corey Grant, who earned a larger role in the offense in Fournette's absence, hit injured reserve with a foot injury, leading the Jaguars to trade for Carlos Hyde last week. The Jags were also somehow down their top four tight ends on Sunday, which led them to start undrafted free agent David Grinnage. He had only made his NFL debut in Week 6.

    The biggest problem, though, is that Jacksonville's offensive line has fallen apart. Starting left tackle Cam Robinson tore his ACL against the Patriots, and while there was a drop-off to backup Josh Wells, the problem got even worse once Wells went on injured reserve. Journeyman Josh Walker has been desperately thrust into mix at left tackle, and he might soon be replaced by Giants castoff Ereck Flowers, who was signed last week. A.J. Cann is the only other lineman to miss a game, but every one of Jacksonville's linemen have either missed time or are playing through injuries.

    For those reasons, I'm skeptical Kessler would be a clear upgrade on Bortles. The USC product posted competent numbers in eight games as a rookie starter with the Browns in 2016, but he also was sacked on 9.7 percent of his dropbacks, and that was with a future Hall of Famer, Joe Thomas, at left tackle. Kessler did protect the football, turning the ball over just six times in eight games, and you might figure that the Jaguars would settle for a limited quarterback if he could just avoid giving the ball away.

    If the Jaguars had a better backup, the case for benching Bortles would be compelling. As is, they aren't likely to encounter many significant upgrades in the trade market. They have about $6 million in cap room after trading for Hyde last week, and while they could create more room by restructuring A.J. Bouye's contract, who are the Jaguars going to acquire? Competitive teams won't want to trade away backups like Nick Foles and Teddy Bridgewater. Eli Manning has been a disaster. The Raiders might be too embarrassed to trade Derek Carr, and it would be too much for a one-year rental given that Jacksonville won't want to pay Carr $20 million in 2019.

    The two trade candidates who stand out are Sam Bradford and Tyrod Taylor, both of whom flamed out spectacularly in their new digs. Neither would cost very much, but it would take time to learn a new playbook, and they were each playing worse than Bortles has so far this season. If Bortles were injured, trading for Bradford or Taylor would make more sense.

    The reality is that there might not be anything wrong with Bortles at all. He just seems to go through stretches like this. From Weeks 2-6 last season, Bortles posted a QBR of 40.1, a stretch that saw him average 6.3 yards per attempt and throw five interceptions on 149 attempts. Over the next three games, Bortles' 90.6 QBR was the best in the league. He posted a league-high passer rating of 128.6 from Weeks 13-15 in 2017, then settled in at less than half that mark -- 62.3 -- over the final two weeks of the regular season and the narrow playoff victory over the Bills. Bortles is like your cat who disappears for two weeks at a time every few months but always somehow finds his way home. Good Blake and Bad Blake are going to show up for different stretches during a typical Jags season.

    You might understand why the Jaguars would be sick of that experience, but they're the ones who signed up for a repeat performance. Remember that Bortles was originally in his fifth-year option this season, only for Jacksonville to re-sign him to a three-year, $54 million extension this offseason. The Jags pretended to make the argument that it was to clear out cap space, but they could have cleared out room just as easily by restructuring Bouye's deal.

    The Jags don't have to play out that entire deal, but they did it make it difficult to move on from Bortles if he continues to struggle. Before the extension, Jacksonville could have either franchised Bortles after the season, signed him to a new deal, or let him leave without any dead money on their cap. Now, the Jaguars would owe a minimum of $10 million in dead money and as much as $16.5 million on their cap if they cut their starter after the season, depending on how much he gets from another team. I think the Jaguars will go back to Bortles for next Sunday's game with the Eagles, but if they're wishing they had a better quarterback, Tom Coughlin & Co. have nobody to blame but themselves.
     
  20. tmacfor35

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    Is Clowney better than Watt now?
     

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