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Game 2 Will Tell us a Tremendous Amount About the Season

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by theimpossibles1, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. theimpossibles1

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    I really wanna start a poll to determine which game will tell us the tremendousest amount about the season, but I'm not gonna be the guy who starts threads every day.
     
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    I.D.I.O.T.
     
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    If we wanna focus on the 3ball - fine... but lets at least have a backup plan if it aint fallin... let's not throw up 22 or 23 consecutive bricks... and then shrug our shoulders and go 'oh well, shots werent falling...'

    I find it really annoying that all the analytic lovers love to say 3>2 and act like its some revelation...
    Here's the thing... last year
    CC 2's @ .652 = 1.304 pts per shot
    Harden 3's @ .375 = 1.125 pts per shot

    now sure there is the foul factor - and obviously Harden is vastly superior to CC on ft% - but lets not act like its a no brainer...

    imo... its about a balanced attack adjusting depending on whats working and what the defense is giving you... and it appears to me that MDA is content just to have have everybody jacking up 3's - regardless of matchup or situation... when you walk into a game with the coach saying 'I want us to shoot x number of 3's - thats a shortcut to thinking and adjusting...
     
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    Harden, Paul Capela and Melo need to have more field goal attempts than Game 1.
     
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    The offense is 3s, layups and FTs....eliminating mid-range 2s ...
    And here you are illustrating layups and 3s.

    Not really sure what point you are making. I mean, I'm sure Morey/MDA's dream is to get a layup/alley-oop on every possession.
     
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    Don’t bother. A few years ago he was trying to make this same point with Dwight and I guess he still doesn’t get it.
     
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    Thousands of fans will be frustrated with MDA and Luc Walton. Those teams have tons of talents with poor defense.
     
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    My point is that sometimes we become a bit to focused and reliant on the 3s - and not so much on the layups and working it inside...
    Take the last game against GSW last year... we kept chucking up an inordinate number of 3's - instead of trying to get a higher percentage bucket down low - that's when the wheels came off the cart...
    CP3 is the best at realizing when this is happening - and drives to try to get an easy 2... when he's out... it just turns to chuckfest...
     
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    The title should be it will tell us a lot about this team not season.
    If the Rockets lose badly against the Lakers who have the weakest frontline in the league, while the whole world and media is focusing on the game then we might as well fold the tent.
     
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    point is Jordnnnn... what are we... the only team in NBA history to attempt more 3's than 2s in a season?
    I get the focus on layups and 3's - while eliminating the mid range... the thing is I believe we are too heavily skewed to the 3's as opposed to the higher percentage buckets down low...
    Hey when the 3s are falling - it's all good... when they dont (as in the final game against GSW) we dont adjust and push it inside more - we keep shooting the 3's - and if they dont fall - we're dead in the water... end of story...
    If we wanna come out firing 3's - fine... but if they aint falling - lets make the adjustment and push the ball inside... it is 3's and layups....
    Sorry if that seems like crazy talk to you... lol
     
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    I dont know how you can say "MDA's dream is to get a layup/alley-oop on every possession" - when a lot of times we fire up a 3 without even trying to work it inside or let a play develop..... I've heard him say "we want to take 50+ 3 point shots tonight" before a game... I've never heard "we want 50+ shots in the paint tonight..." I think his focus is pretty evident... but hey what do I know... I've always said he was only focused on offense and people were telling me all last year that he was as much to credit for the defense tenacity and Bigglydick... lol

    last game against GSW we shot .159 from 3 (7 of 44) and .630 from 2 (29 of 46) ... did we see this trend developing? Did we make an adjustment and force the ball inside more as the game went on... or did we continue to chuck up 3's and shoot ourselves out of the game?
     
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    We won 65 games last year and were a Paul injury away from a title. Playing this way.

    I mean, read that again.

    This strategy was that close to taking down not just the best team right now but one of the best teams EVER.

    I know based on all our back and forth over the years that the 3 point revolution in basketball really eats at your core but you gotta get with the times.

    I said it when you were advocating for more shots for Dwight and I will say it again now... layups and dunks are not easy to come by. Like heyp said it would be any coaches dream to just have a layup line all game but teams don’t just let that happen.

    So let’s not knee jerk and say crazy stuff like let’s just give the ball to Dwight or Clint more, that’ll help the offense! When we know it’s not that simple.
     
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    you are correct rockets overemphasize 3s over layups for years now(I.D.I.O.T.).. but vs golden state it happened because the whistles were silent so 3s were safer shots
     
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    the whole world and media

    True

     
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    we face "must win situation".
     
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    Well, good thing we have Carmelo now and we can destroy the league with his midrange game.

    I'm suprrised the Midrange gang hasn't been out in force banging the Melo drum. That is his bread and butter - in past seasons he has averaged about as many midranges per game in his 30+ minutes of play as the entirety of the Houston Rockets over 48 minutes.
     
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    I think each player’s skill set should be factored in as well. Which comes first player or system? (Chicken Egg theory). Watching MCW shot just hurt ones eyes, but he can contribute in other ways. IMO, he shouldn’t be shooting at all covered or not he should drive —> finish or dish. All of our players need to play THEIR GAME instead of pushing up as many threes as possible. That said, IF a player is a great shooter (Melo) long two point shots should be pushed out to three.
     
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    Super post.
     
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    I got no problem shooting an abundance of 3's - if its working on any given night.

    The problem is (as i stated in my first posts) is MDA's stubbornness... he's the type that has his game plan (shoot 50 3's, short rotations, 'the rotations are what they are'...) and he's not gonna move off that... he'll go down with the ship (as hes done every year) rather than make the necessary adjustments if something aint working on a particular night - for whatever reason... whether its the d keying on our tendencies or the 3 ball simply not falling...

    I'm simply saying have a contingency pan - and execute it as needed... Obviously we had no plan for the Pels front court the other night... and they beat us like a red headed stepchild...

    Let's look back on when I was advocating getting D12 more shots - and we didnt... how'd that season work out? Barely snuck into the playoffs (thereby losing our 1st rd pick from the lawson deal) and getting humiliated in the first round... cause we werent running a balanced attack. Corey Brewer was heaving up crap all year... and that was under the laughable JBB... Any adjustment would have been more beneficial - whether we diversified and were better prepped for the playoffs - or it didnt work out and we missed the playoffs but kept our pick...

    MDA is obviously far superior to JBB - but he has some blind spots that you could drive a semi through... lol
     

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