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[Offical] Astros vs. Red Sox ALCS

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. YOLO

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    http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...ttempt-boston-red-sox-mookie-betts-catch-ball

    After the game, Hinch expanded upon that latter thought, saying: "We assume -- and you can assume a lot with Mookie because he's an incredible athlete -- we assume he's going to make this spectacular catch, jumping as high as he can into the crowd."

    But according to West, Betts didn't even jump into the crowd. He was still in the field of play, the umpire said, according to a pool report.

    "When [Betts] jumped up to reach for the ball, the spectator reached out of the stands and hit him over the playing field and closed his glove."

    Pressed further and asked if the ball had not yet crossed over the wall when Betts jumped for it, West said: "No."

    Fans sitting in the area disagreed, saying the glove was well over the yellow line and into the stands.

    Astros fan Troy Caldwell, who was seen in replays going for the fly ball while wearing an orange shirt, told ESPN that the ball hit his hand, and that another fan, Jared Tomanek, actually touched Betts' glove.

    "I never touched his glove, I can guarantee you that. But I definitely touched the ball," Caldwell said. "The ball hit me right in the hand. I'm so damn ashamed I missed it."

    He added: "If Boston wins this series, then Joe West is the MVP. I'll give that to you right now."

    The Red Sox ultimately won Wednesday's game 8-6. With the win, they lead the best-of-seven ALCS 3-1.

    Tomanek told ESPN he didn't think there was any wrongdoing.

    "The ball was coming hard, we wanted to catch it," he said. "We didn't cross over the top of the line or anything. We weren't hanging over at all."
     
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  2. Houstunna

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    Biasedness and denial go hand in hand.

    Denial is the easiest way to screw yourself in life.
     
  3. Genesis

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    It's almost 10am the following morning, I had my morning run, coffee, and avoided AM radio on the drive in. Just came out of a meeting and realized I didn't listen to a damn thing, as I'm still damn pissed about that HR call.

    Man I hope this game is rallying call to our team, Astros in 7!!
     
  4. Genesis

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    I'm going to leave this here.
     
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    This lineup will get us to game 7, it would be very different....
    1. Kemp .364 for the playoffs and has speed
    2. Springer
    3. Bregman
    4. Correa
    5. Altuve
    6. Gonzalez
    7. Gurriel
    8. Maldonado
    9. Reddick

    This lineup would work. Kemp has been seeing the ball well and Correa's timing looks like its back. Takes a little pressure of Altuve's knee batting him 5th. Altuve's bat protects Correa.
     
  6. YOLO

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    Kemp seems to be just fine being last in the lineup. Yuli and Correa need to be changed now
     
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  7. sammy

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    I'm still mad about the first inning call
     
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  8. Elienator

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    That’s baseball though. 162 games and then short playoff series where wacky things can happen.

    The Astros were good, but probably weren’t the best team last season and won it all. This year I think they were the best team and the odds are now against them.
     
  9. AB

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    Several things went wrong yesterday but Kemp's going for double was something. That inning was typical Astros this year.
    Get the lead off man with 3 big guns waiting bring it home!! That was a momentum changer. I am still having trouble getting over with it.
    Rest of the things, Astros dont have control over. But this :(
     
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    I'm DVRing this tonight just in case work sucks today. The last couple games have been extremely frustrating and depressing, and I deal with more than enough of that already outside of Astros games.

    If I do watch it live, I am absolutely watching it muted. These TBS announcers are simply dripping with spite for the Astros.
     
  11. Baseballa

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    Some years, the mojo just works in your favor and some years it doesn't. Altuve's decision to go home at the end of ALCS G2 last year was far more risky, yet worked out because the Yankees didn't make the play. If Mookie doesn't play that ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY, Kemp's hustle is the story of that hit.
     
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  12. HTM

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    I'll be there tonight.

    I remember going to ALCS game 6 last year after losing three straight with the feeling that I was going to a funeral.

    That worked out.

    If you're gonna die (figuratively speaking) die well. Please don't die (figuratively speaking) like dogs.

    If you're gonna go out I wanna see something like this:

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    I was at the game - do you mind indulging some questions/request? It looked, in real time, like Correa certainly rushed to get to 2nd base and made an awkward plant. Hinch obviously didn't challenge - are there screen caps? How close was it?

    And I guess the consensus on the non-HR was call on the field probably stands, regardless?
     
  14. Rock Block

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    Exactly. Bregmans throw to the plate last year, HUGE, RISKY but it went in our favor, it happens, but umps...yea that’s another story
     
  15. MadMax

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    He was clearly not touching second base. Having said that, I played middle infield for quite a while, and if you were remotely close to the bag with a runner barreling in to you, you were given the benefit of the doubt. I guess that's not so in the age of instant replay.
     
  16. YOLO

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    there was a clear gap bw correa's foot and the base. But that was a play he had to try to make to get 2 at the time. He barely got the out at 1st trying to get the dp.
     
  17. elrond

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    If I look at the bright side, seems like Correa is almost back to normal. Springer also getting it done, and Altuve should have had 2 hits as well. We haven't been able to put together the big inning, but overall our offense was pretty good, just not getting the last clutch hit to break things open, and you just gotta tip your cap to Benitendi on the last play. Bregman unfortunately didn't get it done from the leadoff spot.

    I'm generally ok with them being aggressive on the basepaths, I think it's just part of their dna. If you look at last year, there were those multiple plays against the yankees that may have been outs if Sanchez catches the ball. I think the ball hit by Kemp felt like a double, and it probably would have been except that Betts makes a perfect play between the speed at which he picks up the ball and the throw. Of course with the big bats coming up, it looks bad now, but I can't really fault him for that play.

    I don't really blame Hinch all that much...I don't think he has any good bullpen options at this point. It may be a case of overtrusting the bullpen since they were so good this year. Unless you want to try something unconventional like trying to have Cole come in to get 1 batter in a 2 out men on situation, otherwise pretty much all of the relievers have given up runs in the last few games.

    Anyways, we got JV on the mound, hopefully everyone has shaken off all the rust, and we can stop walking in runs/hitting batters and get it done. Not out of it yet, and when you have JV/Cole coming up, this is probably about as confident as you can feel being down 1-3.
     
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  18. AB

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    on TV, Correa foot looked away from the bag. Not close. it was pretty clear on replay
     
  19. Elienator

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    I haven’t seen replays, but if the fielder is anywhere near the bag it’s usually an out since they don’t want fielders injuring themselves. While that may have been called an out in other circumstances, I don’t think there was any doubt.

    New York Post said consensus in NY was it was a home run, but not clear enough evidence to overturn. The original call was bad, but as the replay rule is written hard to overturn.
     
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    putting in Pressley was the right move but pulling him out with bases loaded and putting in Lance so he can walked a run in was bad. I rather have Lance start an inning instead of coming in the middle.
     
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