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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. Granville

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    It's your opinion that his support was slipping. Bringing in Ford with her unchallenged story in this me too era was underhanded attempt to slander Kavanaugh. It was a last ditch low blow effort to slander an innocent man to block him from a job he earned via a lifetime of hard work.

    Feinstein could have leaked it earlier, sure. I'm sure Ford thought she wasn't going to have to defend that horseshit story at the hearing. Would you want to get up on that stage and lie like she did?

    She certainly didn't prove her allegations since the majority of the Senators voted against her. Pick a different word if you want but her allegations against Kavanaugh were viewed as unproven by the deciding majority.

    We know Ford put forth a hard to believe allegation and it was rejected by the majority. Her 36 year old allegation would have never been allowed to presented in a courtroom. Even if it had she wouldn't have received the kid glove treatment she got from the Senate. The Senators who are crying that they wanted more of her didn't ask her a damn question when they had an opportunity to.

    A deserving individual's dedication to the the US Judicial System was rewarded by him being confirmed to hold the highest position in his field. That's a reason to celebrate. Stop being bitter and biased and join the celebration.
     
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  2. Deckard

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    An excellent, logical post, B-Bob. It makes perfect sense, but apparently logic is lost on them.
     
  3. mick fry

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    Only logical if you are drinking the koolaid. Nothing to gain? This story is far from over as well as the motives behind the other accusers stories . All she had to go on was her memory because they intentionally erased her history from the records( why on earth would you do that unless you had something to hide?), not a bit suspicious btw everybody elses memory says hers was bs. No victory lap, Trump won, Kavanaugh won get over it.
     
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    I'm sure Alex Jones will get to the bottom of it.
     
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    If I had to guess, I would assume the doxxing that occurred last week exposed this number.

    If it were just one incident, it wouldn't be. When there is a pattern of harrassment of GOP figures, it becomes news worthy.

    Interesting reaction.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Kavanaugh is such a scumbag
     
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  8. BruceAndre

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    A tremendous amount of incorrect assumptions here. I don't want the 50s back. A lot of problems are in fact caused by leftist thinking, but certainly not all. Traditional conservatives also offer a level of puritanism I find stifling. (Interestingly, leftists/feminists/tradcons all seem to be joining hands in this puritanism we see today.) I would agree that some things being left behind is a good thing, but it's a generic statement.

    My main thing (or complaint) is that people have to make choices, and they have to recognize that they are making choices, and understand that choices have consequences. You can't be independent and be married (at least successfully married). You can't have a high-level successful career and be a very good parent (goes for men and women). You can't earn a lot of money and have a lot of free time. Generally, it's one or the other.

    For example, I was listening to NPR a few months ago (yes, I know, what was I thinking....) Anyway, they were talking about Obamacare. This story highlighted a lady that was in favor of it, because it would enable her to get health insurance coverage. The story went on and on, but finally it was revealed that her job was being a musician (!) To me, anyone that chooses a "job" like that is choosing not to have the normal benefits that a normal 40-hour office job would bring. But no, this lady wanted to have her cake and eat it too. She did not recognize that choices have consequences.

    Also, I take the long view. The very long view. We as humans have been around for 100,000 years (maybe a lot more). This modern society of ours has been around for a century, maybe a bit more. That's a blip on the radar.

    There are drives within our DNA that have been around for centuries -- for good and for bad. When we don't recognize these, that's when we get into problems. What's more, a personal trait or behavior that was beneficial in caveman/hunter gatherer society may be seen as problematic today. That leads to conflicts within ourselves, within our own goals, and within society.

    I've often thought that most (and I think maybe all) of our social-political-economic problems come from the fact that we are walking around in the 21st century in our caveman bodies. I could elaborate more, but at the risk of getting into an anthropology presentation.

    So, I would say in general that when we abandon traditional systems, we do so at the risk of bringing new and greater and unexpected dysfunctions. For myself, I am no tradcon. I don't want to live that life. But I recognize the value of that approach/philosophy on a number of fronts.
     
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  9. NewRoxFan

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    Away for a week... and come back to the typical mix of "victory dance" and "whining about Democrats"... yet, not looking at what they are doing to the country, especially its institutions. Hopefully the inevitable pendulum swing back will repair the damage...

     
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    Alex Jones will do whatever the Mossad tells him to do.

    Jones has nothing to do with Ford or Kavanaugh. Or the legitimacy of the Trump presidency.
     
  11. BruceAndre

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    Yep, the death threats go both ways. Unfortunately.
     
  12. Granville

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    My response to it was lost on you, I see. Keep thinking logic is on your side.
     
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  13. NewRoxFan

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    The real #walkaway movement
     
  15. El_Conquistador

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    Sonia Sotomayor's involvement with drugs got very little attention during her confirmation hearings -- can you imagine the uproar if Brett Kavanaugh had done the things she did with her "Disco Biscuits"? Instead the liberals, like fools, are focused on keg parties and drinking games.

    Women with Type I Diabetes, like Sotomayor, on average live 10-15 years less than those without the disease. Sonia Sotomayor is currently 64 years old. If she goes to be with the Lord early, then Samuel Alito becomes the "swing vote" on the court.

    GOOD DAY
     
  16. cml750

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    Ruth Ginsburg will have a tough time making it another six years. I suspect she will be the next to go.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    That is very possible. The goal of RBG's current exercise program is to enable her to continue to use the toilet on her own.

    GOOD DAY
     
  18. B-Bob

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    Thank you -- I believe it was sadly accurate.

    I get what you're saying about a "pattern of harassment," but there are patterns of harassment in this decade for all public figures. Hell, I once wrote a fairly bland column for Huff Po and got intimidation-focused phone calls. The loony left and loony right will do anything and harass anyone.

    Let's not use that to then tar and feather everyone who disagrees with us. For sure, forces use these bad behavers to then motivate people on their own "team" to vote and give money. I'm sure you agree.
     
  19. BruceAndre

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    You might want to check out this video of Antifa going gangsta on some innocent driver, who speeds away to get away. The interpretation I suggested of what happened in Charlottesville is entirely plausible:

     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    You are conspiracy theorist's dream. Being in the same city when she wrote a letter proves zero. It is nothing.

    A conspiracy theory is based on putting a bunch of things that are true together. The conspiracy will then fill in fill in links that are in no way proven. They don't show evidence of a connection. They just make the insinuation. That's how conspiracy theories work.

    You just bought into one hook, line, and sinker.

    The article you linked to is one of the trashiest least substantive things I've ever seen in my life.

    Here is what you are trying to link to as worthy of reading and supposedly news?

    Holy cow! my laptop smells worse from just having that appear on it. The rest of the article isn't any more logical or well reasoned.

    The lack of critical thinking from anyone that published that article, puts any stock in that article, or finds value in that article, is evident.
     

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