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the desert storm war hero or the trust fund baby for life

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Oct 8, 2018.

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The trust fund baby for life or the desert storm war hero

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  1. adoo

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    who do you believe ?
    • the trust fund baby for life, a millionaire by age 8 in 1954, who says that
      • he will the greatest president god has ever created

    or

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/powell-called-trump-disgrace-in-emails
    • the desert storm war hero
      • Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says that he is not sure that Trump is capable of moral leadership; Trump has been placing himself ― rather than the American people ― at the center of the nation.

        “My favorite three words in our Constitution are the first three words: ‘We the People,’” it has become ‘Me the President’ as opposed to ‘We the People.’

        Powell criticized Trump for “insulting everybody,” from world leaders to blacks to immigrants to women, and for calling the media the “enemy of the people.”
        “How can a president of the United States get up and say that the media is the enemy of Americans? Hasn’t he read the First Amendment?
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Powell lost all credibility when he voted for Obama. It honestly doesn't matter what he says now.
     
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  3. Jugdish

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    That's when?

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  4. adoo

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    that cemented his reputation as a man of principle,

    country over party​
     
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    Trying to shame Trump is a sucker's bet. Shame that would fell a mortal man just washes right off of him. It's amazing how entirely lacking in a capacity for shame Trump actually is.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    Voting for someone based on that person's race is the exact opposite of being a "man of principle"
     
  7. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, must be why he voted for Clinton too.
     
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  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Well after you turn heel you have to stick with it for a while....in his case, he'll probably have to stick with it forever.
     
  9. JayGoogle

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    Ah yes, voting democrat makes you a bad person and a heel in your eyes.

    Ah, funny how you talk of principles when you were a never trumper who believed that Trump's base were racists...so much for principles!
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Voting for a person based on the race of the person makes you a bad person.....it makes you a racist. People rightfully abandoned Powell after he did that and now he's gotta pander to a different audience, an audience that finds what he did to be acceptable, to get any play and that's what he's doing.
     
  11. JayGoogle

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    Can you quote Powell on voting for Obama because of his race?
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL is this the hill you want to die on? I mean the guy was a Republican up until that point and then went on about how the election of a black man would be historic and that "all Americans should be proud" when it happens.

    It would be the same as you voting for Alan Keyes for president and then going on to support Trump. I mean, sure you can say that you voted for Keyes based on policy, but would anyone really believe you when those policies are the opposite of what you have advocated for your entire adult life?
     
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    No he can't.

    See, in Bobby's eyes, a black person only votes for Obama because he's black.

    It's because Bobby is racist.
     
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    Colin Powell is no saint. However at least he isn’t a walking embarrassment.
     
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    Yeah.....I think that's a matter of opinion because IMO he's pretty much a walking embarrassment.
     
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    Your logic would make sense if he didn't go on to vote for Clinton as well. Looks like you have no proof behind your claim, many noted Republicans voted for Obama, plenty of them white. Care to explain that?

    Yep. It's funny how quickly he jumps to race in a subject not about it at all. Yet, I'm sure he thinks the Democrats are the ones that 'race bait' and he jumps right into race...he ignored all the reasons Powell gave for his support (and he gave plenty) and jumped right to race...

    Powell at the time cited that the picking of Sarah Palin was a big factor for him supporting Obama...which McCain himself realized was a mistake... but nope, it's entirely because of race, nothing else.
     
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    You didn't read what I wrote then. I said it would be similar to you voting for Alan Keyes for president then going on to vote for Trump. Again, you could claim that you did all of that based on "policy" but we'd know better. Anyway, go ahead and deny the obvious if you like, it's only good for comedy though.
     
  18. JayGoogle

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    Yes, I'm reading what you wrote.

    Because I'm black you don't think my political opinions are credible. You've said it just then. That even IF I give policy reasons you'd ignore them and focus on my race. We know this but thanks for clarifying.
     
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    LOL, is that what you took from it? I've known for a while that you have a laughable persecution complex but that's ridiculous. I guess I need to spell this out for you Barney style, so don't complain about me being condescending when you force me to do this **** every time.

    Your political beliefs are clearly far left based on just about everything you've ever said down here, Alan Keyes is the exact opposite of that. So if he won the Republican nomination for president, and you voted for him, no one would believe you that you did so for policy reasons. Given your history it would make a LOT more sense that you were just voting based on the race of the candidate than you doing a complete 180 politically.

    It would be the same if Joe Lieberman, Bernie Sanders, and Chuck Schumer supported Ben Shapiro for president. There's no way anyone could convince you that they did so for policy reasons.
     
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    Lulz, Me? You're the one that brought up race here, no one else.

    I mean you just said it clear as day, even if I give you political reasons, you'd ignore them because of my race. You said that. Persecution complex? Nah, I don't care that much for it to be one. Just reading and replying to what you've said.

    Eh, you're just projecting because you are obsessed with race, which is why you've brought it up here in a thread that had nothing to do with race.

    If Bernie Sanders gave political reasons as to why he supported Ben Shapiro than why would I think he did so for any other reason?

    It's Powell's belief that the GOP doesn't represent what it used to represent, therefore, he supported Obama twice and Clinton. He's not the only Republican that is not happy where the party is going. His politics changed, it's really that simple.

    It's your belief that he did so because of Obama's race, which makes little sense to me unless he just flat out said it. Since he did not and gave actual reasons to his switch I'm led to believe it's the reasons he gave. Otherwise, if it were just about race, he would have supported Cain when it was possible but was still behind Obama. Could be that he just respected Obama and he doesn't think too highly of Trump. Seems like that's the case.

    I'll just go with that then whatever racial reason you've dreamed up. It's sad that for you a black person can't switch parties if the politician they are voting for is also black. Even if they tell you exactly why they are doing so you just ignore their analysis of the situation. Tsk tsk.
     

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