Most extensive Climate report ever shows Disaster underway

Also climate change or not... we aren’t investing in infrastructure to harden our populated coasts...

Knowing the GOP, we will all need to sign up for some monthtly private subscription plan for infrastructure...

 

Going vegan costs, like, a million dollars, totally. I mean, like, who can even afford it anyway? What we really need to do is, like, tax oil until it is a million dollars per barrel. Which makes so much more sense when you think about it.

TOTALLY!

 

Not a lot of commerce going to take place here...

GOOD DAY

 

YES.... we actually are. I actually have a daughter. I want her to have a sustainable environment to grow up in and have a family of her own. I give a crap about more than just winning an argument on the internet because that's the only way I bring satisfaction to my pathetic little FoxNews watching world.

I grew up miles from Galveston & don't want to see my home.... Galveston & Surfside under water and un-inhabitable. I don't want to see more and more Harvey's. Climate Change has nothing to do with a political agenda for people who live in places like Houstonians do.

Where do you live? Oklahoma....Iowa.... or Russia? Somewhere you obviously cannot yet see the impact, or somewhere you are able to remain ignorant & self absorbed.

I don't give a SH$% about political power when it comes to the actual well-being of my family, or just basic humanity in general. So STFU with your baseless allegations about what we do or don't want.

 

I'm very happy that Obama stopped ISIS and ebola.

 

Humm.. I wonder...

What's the humane and economic cost of our coastal line going belly up?

What's the humane and economic cost of State going belly up resulting in mass migration?

What's the humane and economic cost of war over water, resources and land when areas become too extreme for human?

....

$20 Trillion I heard.

 

I hear this a lot, and there is some truth to the idea that people can individually do things that are better for the environment. However I also find it to be used as an excuse by some to not back progressive policies on the issue of climate change. I compare it to those that oppose taxes on the ultra rich arguing that if Warren Buffet really believes the ultra wealthy tax rate should be increased that he should voluntarily pay more in taxes.

Simply stated, it doesn't work that way. That is why you will see people that individually do not voluntarily do things, support policies that will force them to do so.

 

The whole world is complicit in global pollution. Its not limited to predominately one party or group. By this logic, I can easily say much of the polluters in North America can be found in the urban areas, which I can then twist into some false narrative.

There are reasons why dirty power is still the predominate means of energy. It goes beyond 'cheap' energy.

Power generation and maintaining our grid is extremely complex. We could throw up enough power and solar farms to power 3/4 of the country. However if these sources get compromised just for a few seconds (no wind, no sun) it will throw the whole grid out of sync. Dirty power is extremely efficient and generates power instantly. Hydro, wind, and solar are not. If the power grid is disrupted too much, we could see massive brownouts that last for weeks and months, not to mention the loss of energy. Until we develop efficient batteries, dirty power is here to stay.

Turning this into a political topic is insane. Holding onto this religious mantra that believing in global warming is going to somehow save us is ridiculous. Everyone is complicit, regardless if you believe in it or not. We all continue to buy and support products that use massive amounts of energy to produce.

The most environment friendly car is the one you already own. The least environment friendly car is the one you just purchased to replace it.

 

That’s why natural gas is gaining market share. This has to be a political issue, how else will change happen?

Trump missed a huge opportunity to not use Rex Tillerson/natural gas during the Paris Accord. Instead he stuck with campaign promise about coal... clearly an energy of the future...

 

Instead of hyperbole... how about we just put a price on pollution?

 

Sure...... and we could also have taxes be voluntary, and not have speed limits either and count on people following the law as well. We make laws because everyone does not do things voluntarily. Further, laws are passed to change culture at times.... look no further than the Civil Rights Act.

You can discuss liberals not showing up to vote in swing states, (and I do not disagree with you) but it really isn't relevant.

 

Practice true noblesse oblige: oppress yourself first.

 

Lol, based on what?

 

Huh? So you have to be dishonest and create the unrealistic goal posts where if you believe in climate change you have to live off the grid....

The reason you and no one else is debating the science behind of climate change is because all you got left to debate is how “liberals don’t practice what they preach”.

Like you would have any idea what liberals do or don’t do in their daily lives...

 

Given the people in Florida, I see this as a good thing.