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Most extensive Climate report ever shows Disaster underway

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Senator

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    Climate report: Scientists politely urge 'act now, idiots'


    In a place like Texas where many earn their paychecks from Oil&Gas then go home and eat a ton of meat, facts like this are swept under the rug. No one wants to compromise their lifestyle.

    As someone who can't stand liberals, I would still vote out Trump in 2020 and go democrat for this reason alone... and the farse of promoting coal for short term profits. Have to shift the entire industry to nuclear - renewables will take too long.

     
  2. A_3PO

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    Isn't climate change a hoax created by the Chinese?
     
  3. JayGoogle

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    Can't wait to see the liberal tears in 2040!
     
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  4. mick fry

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    You can’t vote out the rest of the world leaders but go ahead and make a worthless stand that will only hurt you and your country.
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    [Premium Post]
    The global warming/climate change movement is a Neo-Malthusian effort to restrain economic growth as a way to limit population growth in Asia/India and ensure that the lifestyles and more importantly, power, of the developed world are sustained. Asia and India have far more people and resources than the developed world. Limiting these regions' ability to growth using low cost energy stunts their growth and lowers their qualities of living -- which in turn ensures that Western Europe, Developed Asia (Japan/Korea) and the USA retain their roles as global economic leaders and the most powerful countries.

    Democratic leadership will never admit to this, but this is motivation for the movement. Everything in politics points back to gaining or retaining power, and this is no different. The climate change movement is yet another deceitful lie, camouflaged in a "we're saving the world" feel good story, the likes of which liberals blindly subscribe to.

    GOOD DAY
     
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  6. dobro1229

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    Of course the first Trumpers to respond here jump right into the top two wing nut talking points.

    A. We are all going to die anyways so F it. Lets just pollute & screw everyone.... including our own children & grandchildren.

    B. Its a HOAX!! a George Soro's funded conspiracy to make the world a suppressed liberal communist state where White Christians are wiped off the face of the earth so the Chinese, the Jews & the Muslims can rule the world without that pesky Jesus Christ standing in our way.
    .........

    Heaven forbid its actually NOT the most extreme political agenda that the left could dream up, and even SOME of the Science is accurate, you'd think they'd at least cut the BS conspiracy theories & do the human thing which is to act concerned, but really do nothing because in your heart you really don't care & are skeptical of science even when its slamming you in the face.

    But no... now we are in a world where the two aforementioned talking points are out in the open & widely accepted.

    We are all doomed if this type of ignorance, selfishness, and in-humanity is now widely accepted in the mainstream.
     
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  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    No, actually you are the one with less information than me, thereby making your post ignorant. Is it selfish and inhumane to want to encourage economic growth in developing economies? On the contrary, it is your position on this issue that is both selfish and inhumane. My goal is to lift the quality of life in places like China, India, and Africa. The goal of climate change proponents is to safeguard existing geopolitical power structures by capping the growth of developing economies by limiting their access to low cost forms of energy. Open your eyes to how you are being played by the Democrats! They have tricked you into adopting incredibly selfish and inhumane positions on issues, and you haven't even recognized it yet.

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  8. dobro1229

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    How does pulling carbon out of the atmosphere not affect the quality of life in countries like Africa who increasingly becoming devastated by drought? How does pulling carbon out of the atmosphere not affect the quality of life in China where the air quality looks like this-

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    How do you pull carbon out of the atmosphere you say...... well it sure as sh$% isn't by doing what your Supreme Leader Donald Trump is trying to do:




    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...0f81cc58c5d_story.html?utm_term=.15c66856ea90

    You also show a high level of ignorance about the Paris Climate Agreement which is essentially more of a pledge for a coalition on who will be proving what type of power to developing countries. That's why even a fossil fuel centric country like Russia wants in on the Paris agreement. They want to ensure they will be able to do business on the global stage when the Paris Agreement counsel helps align the best way to help power a country like Zimbabwe over the next 100 years. Now the US is poised to ensure it wins ZERO percent of those international agreements to bring work opportunities back to the US.

    Power = development for these third world countries. It means a better way of life. What you say you are more concerned with that THE DEMOCRATS want to stifle.

    You are truly one of the more obnoxious Trump trolls on the internet today. I don't know how old ignorant f-cks like you can look at your children or likely our grandchildren and know that you really could give two sh$%'s about the environment those kids will have to repair or suffer through in generations to come because you were just sooo keen on "OWNING LIBS" on the internet that you helped create a toxic political climate that allowed for ignorance of science to become mainstream.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And yet China, India, and Africa all take climate change seriously and are working to reduce emissions. Weird how that is huh?

    You're basically saying the US should ignore what these countries are doing to save themselves and instead increase CO2 in order to help their economies against their will?

    Kids - do not grow up to be a pompous idiot like this man. The world can always use a few clowns, but who wants to be a clown?
     
  10. WNBA

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    So Asia and India are limiting their own growth to please rich countries....because they have far more resources?
    Are you r****ded?
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Humanity will collectively take the blame for climate change, but we all know that the truth is that people like TJ and Donald J Trump are the ones who bear the greatest responsibility by blocking real action.
     
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    Young man, this is where your naivete is pitted against my savvy, and you draw erroneous conclusions while my arguments stand tall. According to an article in Forbes just today, 65% of Chinese electricity comes from coal and 75% of India's electricity comes from coal. Both countries will provide lip service to renewables and 'green energy', employing renewables in selected geographic regions where it is economically beneficial for them to do so. Wind in the Texas panhandle and solar in the California deserts are examples of the US doing similarly. But make no mistake, Asian countries and India are staunchly opposed to curtailing economic development by restricting their energy choices. The Asian countries play the public relations game in order to manage global politics, since Western media dominates globally and Western media are climate change activists. These Asian countries say what they need to publicly, but their actions are far more telling, and their actions indicate strong support for all forms of energy.

    I'm giving you a window into how the world really works. But go ahead and continue to get played like a fool by the media and by the selfish and inhumane liberal elitists who have been lying their face off with regard to climate change for decades. Time and again, their hysterical predictions have proven false, yet they continue on. Everything in politics centers around power... and to think that the liberals are promoting climate change because they actually want to help the environment, as compared to gain more power, well, it's the height of folly! You just have yet to figure the game out.

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  14. Bobbythegreat

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    I would argue you'd want to laugh at anyone who would suggest that China or India are doing anything serious to limit their growth or pollution. They are the main reason why it doesn't matter what the US or anyone else does to attempt to set the global thermostat, any actions will be offset by those two.

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  15. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    You are so sadly misinformed. You really need to stop reading the propaganda junk you are fed by the right wing TJ. Do you feel foolish?

    Chinese use of coal for instance has flat-lined - meanwhile their nuclear energy has more than doubled and will triple again by 2030 to put them in line with the United States in nuclear power. China isn't going to curtail economic develop you dummy, they are realizing they don't need coal to grow unlike stupid people who think a backwards 1800's technology of coal is still necessary.

    In India - you are even more misinformed - where the coal industry is crashing. Indian use of coal as dropped from 78% in 2010 to under 58% in 2017 - so your number are just wrong. There are no new plans for coal plants with all of Indian's future energy needs being met by LESS EXPENSIVE renewables which are 20% CHEAPER.


    You are grossly out of touch with reality and your false reality shows you how poorly educated you are. It's actually pretty disturbing that you throw erroneous facts and conclusions. You must be doing very poorly in business these days.
     
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    Why do we have limit our growth?

    Natural gas is cleaning than coal... start moving away from coal towerds cleaning natural gas.

    Solar and wind costs have come down to the point where they are competitive... invest more in renewable energy installation. Conservative Texas has invested billions in energy transmission lines from windy/sunny west Texas to the population centers.

    Energy efficiency means replacing more infficient appliances and the like with more energy efficient ones as time moves on....

    Can you climate deniers step up your game instead of speaking that ignorance?
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol. Try again Bobby...
     
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    Lol. That’s why natural gas has exploded.... Natural gas not only emits less greenhouses, it emits less pollution that contributes to smog...

    Here’s the very liberal oil prices.com take on the matter...

    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-...orts-Soar-Despite-Domestic-Output-Growth.html

    China is investing both in production and the infrastructure needed for imports. The US may have to put its second round of LNG export terminals on hold due to the trade war.
     
  20. Amiga

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    I remember when the excuse was it's not real. Then it's a hoax. Now if others won't do something (which isn't true), why should we? Ah, stupid, because we only have one Earth. Leaders lead to a better future, creating solution and solving problem, not complain and blame.
     

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