Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Unless the investigation sank Kavanaugh or extended past the midterms democrats were not going to be happy with the results. This investigation wasn't for democrats. It was to give cover to the 3 republican senators so they can vote yes. They are the ones that decided the scope of the investigation.

Personally, I'm not a fan of Kavanaugh. His answers when he was being questioned about his drinking were a huge red flag to me. Jeff Flake summed it up best in his interview with 60 minutes. He said had he been running for reelection he never would have asked for the investigation. These hacks getting reelected is more important to them than making the right choices for America on BOTH sides. Term limits should be the bipartisan rally cry for the whole country. I shouldn't be seeing videos of these same politicians at similar hearings from the 80s and 90s.

We better start figuring out how to live with each other despite the political differences in this country. Way too much talk about violence on both sides.

 

Lockstep conservatism is something that could have been had with hundreds of other judges with probably cleaner pasts. It's the unusual interpretation of presidential powers that makes him stand out.

 

Dirty politics have consequences.

 

Not so sure it will just "pass". The Republicans now have 2 of their 5 justices having been accused of sexual assault/battery by credible women. Times are a lot different in 2018 than in 1992. The only way he is removed from the bench is someone else that has an eye witness comes forward and the Democrats at some point attempt to impeach him, but that isn't likely to happen.

The Republicans get the majority in the court for likely the next decade, but they alienated A LOT of women. The polling shows that women are not happy, that includes a lot of white women and the vast majority of independent women voters.

 

Yes, you realize I can say the same thing for Obama's 8 years of presidency, correct?

 

We are talking about a Supreme Court Justice. Short of the women recanting, there will be no "good graces". The standards for a Supreme Court Justice are very high.... especially with all the attention that this has received. He can likely be an effective Judge if he stays out of the limelight but he is always going to have a lot of Americans believing that he was a sexual predator and only made the court because of politics.

 

It's not really scary, it simply is where we are now. In a way it's good that we don't have to pretend anymore.

Republicans don't give a **** about democracy, minorities and now, sexual violence against women, and they want you to know it. Basically, they don't give a **** about anybody outside their circle, rule of law, basic human dignity, compassion, do unto others - all of that is off the table.

They care about power, and using it against people without consequence, because if you don't use it, you don't have it.

Time to act accordingly.

 

Anybody remotely close to being scrutinized, criticized and drug the mud as much as Trump or Kavanaugh come to mind off hand?

 

This.

The investigation was because Flake needed a justification.

You can already see how Collins will vote, when she called it a thorough investigation.

Flake will praise the investigation to ease his conscious and vote to approve.

It is even possible someone like Heitkamp votes for approval to try to salvage her senate seat (it won't work).

At the end of the day, all of the politicians are working for narrow groups of extremists.

 

That will definitely be his legacy, I agree.

I don't think anyone will forget how he got on the court, just like Thomas, but I do think people will get to a state of just grumbling about it and accepting it like they do with Thomas.

I agree with you that him being on the court is always going to hurt the GOP with women, probably for a long long time, unless as you say, something comes out to vindicate his side of the story.

 

Right...... just remember that when the power dynamics shift, like they always do, and the Democrats have you bent over and are ****ing you up the ass that you didn't have a problem with it before.

I pointed this out when the Democrats raged about the increase in executive power under GW Bush but didn't mind Obama increasing the power even further..... and now they are dealing with Trump and strong presidential powers.

 

Definitely, it's a sad place we're at where people think it's a valid excuse to take rights away from others.

Excusing Kavanaugh from stripping rights away from women because of how he was treated by Democrats is pretty bad, tbh. Where does that stop? Should a sitting judge go after Muslims because of a Muslim terror attack?

It used to be expected that judges would do their best to be non-partisan and fair, no matter what. Now we're (Some conservatives here at least) saying it's alright if they vindictively rule this way or that...that's just madness.

 

What dirty politics?

 

Lol, Trump deserves it dude, let's not make this into a Trump thread but come on. All the crap he's said no other president, republican or democrat, would have been able to get away with...this isn't even all the stuff he's done. Just admit that he's not the cleanest dude but you like him anyway because of his politics...stop acting like he doesn't deserve the scrutiny when he talks about grabbing women's genitals, making fun of veterans like McCain, and making fun of disabled people...stop acting like this crap doesn't deserve criticism and that all of it is just alright with you...

If Obama did one-fourth of the crap Trump did he'd have been impeached his first term.

 

Yeah I like to dream sometimes too, the left has nothing to offer and Americans are waking up just like I have. I used to be a Dem but there is no way in hell I can support this party any longer, just lunacy.

 

One Senator to keep an eye on is Ben Sasse.

He is not happy about Trump or Kavanaugh.

I think at the end of the day he votes for confirmation, but he has the political capital to vote "no" and still get re-elected in Nebraska.

 

Dream?

You really believe that the Democrats will not have control of the Presidency and Senate at some point in the next decade? Have you looked at history? Parties ebb and flow and it is going to happen..... and at some point the Republicans will take it back... etc.

When that happens, and you don't like what happens, just remember how you felt in 2018.

This has nothing to do with the party you favor and everything to do with history.......... that type of stuff comes back to bite you in the ass quickly.

 

The GOP ran multiple 'investigations' on Obama during his term. Became the ultimate obstructionist (no surprise now why Democrats are doing the same strategy) and of course the entire birther thing which they allowed to flourish and grow. during Obama's turn a majority of Repubclans (and only them, the rest of the country, nope) thought Obama should have been impeached...for what? Who the ____ knows.

The issue is, Benghazi and claims that the IRS was targeting conservatives can't touch scandals of having affairs with playboy models and pornstars.

 

Trump had skeletons when he ran everybody knew it, he’s not a politician. He got elected because of that and the results have been pretty good despite his being an ass.

 

Conservatives already felt like they were bent over when Obamacare was passed with zero Republican votes and giant pork to buy off the moderate democrats. It kicked up the tea party movement which meant if you weren't hard right you would be primaried. That triggered republicans to stick together and move harder right and democrats are now moving further left in response. I think having a super majority to pass anything would probably be a good idea for the long term viability of this country. Gridlock is better than legislation that is passed 51-49 because you radicalize the opposition and here we are....