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[NYT] Trump Empire Built on Gifts & Tax Fraud

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  1. tallanvor

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    havent read the article, but is the gist that his father used a bunch of tax loopholes ? are they suggesting something illegal?

    if not, why is trying to legally pay as little taxes as possible seen as some big deal? I pay my accountant to do exactly this. Does anyone here intentionally pay more taxes than they have to?
     
  2. B-Bob

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    It's worth reading, even for his fans, or for the "I didn't vote for him but..." brigade.

    But yes, illegal activity. That's where the word fraud comes in. And the amount is pretty shocking when compared to the Trump legend. So basically, based on the detailed reporting, Dear Leader has not really made any money on his own in his lifetime. That the man who peddled steaks via sharper image and a fake university would be propped up with ill-transfered money from his dads is not really surprising, but it's never been documented like this.

    I mean, by all means, keep supporting him, but know who he is. That his whole brand is a lie, and he then piles lies upon that lie. It may be worth realizing your aims and thwarting libs, but just own who this man is.
     
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  3. Xenon

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    Tax fraud not using simply loopholes.
     
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  4. ipaman

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    So which is it clutchfans.

    Is he smart enough to fraud the government without getting caught while utilizing complex financial schemes or is he the Dotard?

    Which is it?
     
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  5. Xenon

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    Both. He wasn't senile in the 90s.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    He's a dotard that evaded taxes. Do you think the latter requires intelligence?
     
  7. mtbrays

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    MAGA 1: Our infrastructure sucks, there are no opportunities near me and I’m bankrupt from a preventable disease!

    MAGA 2: Let’s elect the real estate tycoon who has been short-changing his tax bill by hundreds of millions of dollars for decades! He gets us!
     
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  8. fchowd0311

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    He was still not the sharpest tool in the shed.

    At the end of the day he inherited 413 million dollars from his father and had no shame in minimzing how much he inherited to pay less in taxes.

    He also bankrupted himself enough to the point where only foreign investment banks with ties to Russian money laundering schemes would invest in him .

    Trump has the unfortunate combination of being born with massive wealth, high ambitions and low intelligence .
     
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  9. KingCheetah

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    He did get caught unlike Obama/ Clinton Deep State.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    TJ, Annotated

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    Educational Post] TJ's need to feel self-important and point out to everyone he is deserving of their respect. His mother mentioned he started this at the age of 6

    Every man of means (which is almost none of you reading this) Implicit claim that he has a larger penis than you

    works with tax advisors to pay no greater amount than is owed. A mark of his condescending nature, he'll often state the obvious

    Trump has led our country to its best economic performance ever. "SHAMeless" exaggeration - mirroring the narcissism of President Putin

    Stock market at all time highs, unemployment at lows, economic growth strong, One of his favorite activities is to troll liberals by refusing to credit Obama

    trade deals put in place to benefit Americans... meaning men of "means" such as TJ and J.Trump...ironically a Mexican industrialist who favors a trade war on Mexico

    the list goes on and on. He's run out of things to say

    Yet the liberals like Sham Fisher are still intent on playing small ball over tax issues from the 1990's. It makes you look small, Juvenile insults meant to make himself chuckle (Trump Jorge?) and believe he is not only very important, but funny as well. Also note the genitalia envy on display.

    quite honestly. Clearly not so much - TJ and Trump J have so much in common surprise surprise

    You should focus instead on the economic health and prosperity of the country, which is outstanding. Just in case you were about to say anything negative

    Trump is owning you Some might say this is slavery reference, other might say it's an attempt to trigger "Sham Fisher".

    and your hatred is driving you to look ridiculous. Sham often does look ridiculous, so we'll concede this point

    GOOD DAY To understand the meaning TJ's sign-off, it is recommended to re-read his posts with a stuffy British Accent.
     
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  11. fchowd0311

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    This is where people like ipaman have cognitive dissonance.

    So the Clintons ran a massive crime family allegedly yet when their mortal enemies, the GOP control EVERY FEDERAL BRANCH of government, they decide to investigate the Dotard while Hillary is resting cozy with occasional statements about current affairs that trigger the GOP.
     
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  12. KingCheetah

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    The land saved him - had the property been anywhere but New York that money would have run dry long ago.
     
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    presumably not in 2016 either when he outcampaigned clinton on 2/3 her budget.
     
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  14. fchowd0311

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    I think that speaks more about the voters than Trump's competence.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    All part of the Deep State plan to ruin his presidency.
     
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  16. Senator

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    No, the coal miners thought he was the only one with the balls to make sure they would keep working and blow away any kind of trade regulations that prohibited them from feeding their families.

    And they were right - even though coal is a thing of the past, we need to be focusing on renewables and nuclear.... Trump did what he had to do to pander to who he needed to. It's great for the short term, brutal for the long.
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    I think you miss the subtle nuances of coal miners.
     
  18. Senator

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    By being a repulsive, vile aggressor with a huge following behind him. He's not part of the establishment that will let Weinstein and Bezos sit on his face like Hilary... and created alot of animosity against Amazon for dealing with usps the way they did, having an owner worth 150 billion who employed a hundred thousand people who needed federal benefits to survive....etc. As a business man and human, he is incompetent. But as an entitled trust fund brat who gets things done, he is very good and that's what voters recognized.
     
  19. Senator

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    Don't get it?
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    You really have an odd way of connecting dots.

    "Gets things done" .

    Trump is the great window dresser in cheif.

    His administration adds a few incentives for dairy farmers in NAFTA and then relables it and sells it as a grand new trade deal. That is Trump. That is how he decieves idiots.
     
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