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Beto vs Ted

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. CCorn

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    Not really sure how this can be blamed on Beto. He’s been running a classy campaign... the other guy, not so much.
     
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    leftists acting like animals and all you can do is call me a troll? Was the person who vandalized Cruz's yard sign also a domestic terrorist?
     
  4. JeeberD

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    I see a whole lot more reports of stolen Beto signs than of vandalised Cruz signs. If fact, someone started a Twitter account just to aggregate the reports of stolen Beto signs... https://twitter.com/StoleMyBetoSign #GOPStoleMySign
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Problem is that you don't wait for all the facts ;-). The office building isn't just Cruz' but home to tens of other businesses and the package was located on the 9th floor while Cruz' offices are on the 12th. Why don't you wait for all the facts?

    BTW, there was nothing poisonous in the box and the building gave an all clear hours ago.
     
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  6. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    but but the unhinged on left, socialism, her emails, bengazi... no collusion... bunch of right wing parrots flying around in circles. SMDH
     
  7. Nook

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    "Leftists".... "Animals"...... are you some sort of weird Russian spy or some sort of left over visage of post World War I Germany and think you are fighting the Communists?

    When you sit at home on a Saturday night and wonder why you have to pay for sex...... things like this are why.

    Life isn't this hard.... the Bolsheviks are not storming the castle.
     
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  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    False flag meh bro. The left can't even false flag right!
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    Of course not. The deep state hasn't given us the go-ahead for Jade Helm II: FEMA Camp Boogaloo quite yet.
     
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  10. BruceAndre

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    If they can, yes. But they cannot always do so, especially if they are in a competitive marketplace. In such a case, they'll keep prices the same, and look for cost savings elsewhere.
     
  11. BruceAndre

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    See, I appreciate this post: an actual example. I never said that there would be no discernable immediate effect. The real question is what effect such tariffs will have on things people really cannot avoid buying: housing, transportation, fuel, food. I'm assuming that the piece of woodworking machinery is not a necessity, unless you are a carpenter by trade or something similar.
     
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    That is a broad generalization that is not applicable to the situation of tariffs.

    Tariffs aim to increase the landing cost of targeted imported goods, hoping to push direct and indirect consumers towards alternative sources (like local production or other import sources) or towards alternative goods. Businesses import the targeted goods in the first place cos that is what gives them the best value, and thus any alternative would come at an additional cost to said business.

    In a competitive market, there is little margin left to business as price is driven down by the competition. These low prices can only be provided by those with the cheapest sources i.e. the tariff targeted goods.Businesses that source alternatives will be at a higher price point. Thus when tariffs are applied it will affect all businesses operating at the lowest price point and they have no alternative than to move up and operate at a higher price point to stay in business.Trying to absord without the margin will simply put the company in red and eventually go belly up.
     
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    Still laughing about Jade Helm II: FEMA Camp Boogaloo.

    I mean... laughing because you conservatives won't know what hit you once you're taking break dance classes at the butt of a machine gun.
     
  16. jo mama

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    i know someone who owns a framing company - their costs have gone up due to the trump tariffs and those costs are being passed onto their customers.
    i know someone who owns a bike shop - bikes are about to become 10% more expensive due to the trump tariffs (it goes up another 15% next year) - those costs are being passed onto their customers.
    i know someone who owns a company that installs metal & steel doors - their costs have gone up due to the trump tariffs and those costs are being passed onto their customers.

    ill post these for the 3rd time...

    https://www.breitbart.com/news/inflation-gas-prices-tariffs-squeeze-consumers/
    The price of a can of Coca-Cola? Likely going up. A package of Pampers? That too. Plane tickets? They also may be more expensive. These items and more may cost more in the coming months as people start feeling the effects of higher fuel prices and raw-material costs as well as a range of tariffs.

    Janette Hendricks said she has noticed higher prices on “just about everything” in the past three months or so. That’s put a little pressure on the recently retired nurse in Washington. So she goes shopping less often, “makes things stretch,” and she always shops for things on sale. She said she has also considered going back to work to have more cushion in the budget.

    Overall, the aluminum and steel tariffs could cost the U.S. beverage industry nearly $348 million, according to The Beer Institute. Coca Cola has announced plans to raise prices, citing the cost of raw materials and packaging, though the impact on retailers and consumers is hard to gauge.


    “Clearly, it’s disruptive for us. It’s disruptive for our customers,” Coca-Cola Co. CEO James Quincey said in a call with investors last week.

    Industrial equipment companies are feeling the impact of the trade disputes. Caterpillar, which makes construction and agricultural equipment, said it plans to raise prices to offset the steel and higher material costs.


    The National Association of Home Builders estimates that the tariffs the Trump administration placed on Canadian softwood lumber — along with other factors — have increased the cost of constructing a house by $7,000. Higher lumber prices may cause a slowdown in home construction, which would also mean a possible slowdown in job growth. Both building permits and ground breakings slowed in June, according to the Commerce Department.


    “Any higher costs for material comes right out of our profit,” said Randy Noel, a custom builder in Louisiana and chairman of the home builders’ board.


    Higher costs mean his company has only sold 30 homes this year, rather than the normal 40. He’s been using fewer subcontractors on projects — which means those workers lose income.


    “They’re sitting at home and looking for remodeling jobs,” Noel said.


    https://www.dallasnews.com/business...-shortages-regulations-hammer-us-homebuilding
    A spike in lumber prices caused by the Trump administration's tariffs on Canadian wood products is one of the biggest burdens on builders, Dietz said. Lumber prices in the U.S. have risen 62 percent since January 2017, according to him.

    "We get a third of the lumber we use in the U.S. from Canada," he said. "A lumber tariff is very much a tax on homebuyers. It's pushed up the price of a typical home by $9,000."

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/18/lower-lumber-prices-hold-builder-sentiment-steady-for-now.html
    Of the nearly 6,000 products listed in the latest tariffs from the Trump administration, a preliminary look by the NAHB found about 600 products either connected to home construction or to tools used to build apartments or homes. That represents $10 billion in goods, which at a 10 percent tariff rate puts a $1 billion tariff on housing. This includes appliances and other kinds of home furnishings products.


     
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    Good thing he’s not running for the Supreme Court
     
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  20. Dubious

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    It's straight out of Karl Rove's Bag O' Tricks/
    https://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Rove-s-dirty-tricks-Let-us-count-the-ways-1246665.ph
    • In 1986, while working for Texas Republican gubernatorial hopeful William Clements, Rove claimed that his personal office had been bugged, most likely by the campaign of incumbent Democratic Gov. Mark White. Nothing was proved, but the negative press, weeks before the election, helped Rove's man win a narrow victory. FBI agent Greg Rampton removed the bug, disrupting any attempt to properly investigate who planted it.

    • When Rove advised on George W. Bush's 1994 race for governor of Texas against Democratic incumbent Ann Richards, a persistent whisper campaign in conservative East Texas wrongly suggested that Richards was a lesbian. According to Texas journalist Lou Dubose: "No one ever traced the character assassination to Rove. Yet no one doubts that Rove was behind it. It's a process on which he holds a patent. Identify your opponent's strength, and attack it so relentlessly that it becomes a liability. Richards was admired because she promised and delivered a 'government that looked more like the people of the state.' That included the appointment of blacks, Hispanics and gays and lesbians. Rove made that asset a liability."
     
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