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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. tallanvor

    tallanvor Member

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    I'm not lying at all. Neither is he. I find him incredibly honest. You think tripping people up on definitions of 'blacked out' and 'passing out' somehow meaningful. To any rational person they aren't.
     
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  2. justtxyank

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    Seriously this is ridiculous.

    He specifically distinguished between passing out and "going to sleep." If people think there is no difference then that should be an issue they have with HIM not being willing to admit to something. No need to just spin it for him.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    whats the difference?
     
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    I'm not tripping him up, he's making the distinction.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    and that distinction is what?
     
  6. justtxyank

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    Ask him not me. The insinuation is he never got so drunk he couldn't stay awake, he just voluntarily went to sleep after drinking.

    Every answer he gave about drinking was disingenuous as part of his effort to downplay his drinking. I'm not one that cares about whether he drank in high school and college, but I am bothered by his effort to be dishonest about it and I'm amused by your effort to pretend it didn't happen.
     
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  7. Chilly_Pete

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    The choir boy comment was my own. The quote I referenced was what he said that was disputed by his classmates.
     
  8. tallanvor

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    we cna make this easier for you @justtxyank. His friends have claimed that the extent of his drinking is drinking to much and falling asleep correct? nobody has claimed to see him black out. IS that not what Kavanaugh presented his drinking as too?
     
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  9. FranchiseBlade

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    The definition and difference aren't meaningful to most people. But it was to Kavanaugh since he made a definite distinction. There has been a long list of the lies that he has told. You've found him incredibly honest? LOL

    Did "boof" mean flatulence? Does beach week Ralph club refer to getting sick from spicy food? Was Devil's Triangle a drinking game similar to Quarters?

    Please look at the long list of documented lies and dishonesty from Kavanaugh that I believe @No Worries Worries posted.
     
  10. tallanvor

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    IT is not your own. Every newspaper ran with that claim and it comes from an old friend describing him as not that. Also those claims in the quote have not been disputed. He did everything in those. He also drank alot too which he stated.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Kavanaugh was asked if he ever passed out from drinking. He said No. He lied. Now you're trying to change things.

    If you say there is no difference between passing out and falling asleep, then you are finding fault with Kavanaugh.

    Your claim was that Kavanaugh said multiple times that he passed out from drinking. Kavanaugh specifically denied what you are claiming he admitted.

    Now you seem so twisted by it that you are trying to blame other posters for not knowing that they are the same. It was Kavanaugh's distinction and your lie about it. Why not own it and move forward?
     
  12. Chilly_Pete

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    It was my comment in my post. He is being misleading and dishonest and so are you.
     
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  13. LongTimeFan

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    If you've made up your mind on whether Kavanaugh committed the alleged acts -- one side or the other -- chances are you're a partisan hack. There's no evidence to condemn or defend this man with regarding those allegations. I hope most people can understand the distinction between believing one testimony more than the other and attacking the other party for what they think are lies.

    That said, if you don't think Kavanaugh lied under oath, several times, you are also a partisan hack. Maybe you think what he lied about is trivial -- that's fine. He still lied, under oath.

    When did that stop becoming a disqualification for the highest legal seat in our country?

    Law and Order restored?
     
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  14. tallanvor

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    sure. the fault i find with Kavanaugh is that he mispoke and instantly corrected himself. How dare he make such a mistake?

    I can make this claim because he described his drinking perfectly and nobody has presented any evidence that his drinking was more than he described (falling asleep from drinking too much).

    You see a lie because you want it to be a lie.

    yea i'm sure you chose the words 'choir boy' which ever paper in the country used and has been posted here many times all by yourself.....

    who is misleading?
     
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    Schumer No cattle all asshat
     
  16. tallanvor

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    what lie under oath? every perjury claim has been laughed at by lawyers. The people above are claiming he lied in a fox news interview (not under oath) and even those claims are dumb.
     
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  17. FranchiseBlade

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    This isn't accurate. He didn't correct himself and say that he did, in fact, pass out. He made a distinction. He never corrected himself.
     
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  18. Nook

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    If you really believe that he is "incredibly honest" then you have serious judgment issues that could make you a danger to other people.

    Kavanaugh has lied multiple times under oath....... dating all the way back to 2005 up until his recent judiciary hearing.

    If dishonesty has been so pervasive that there have been multiple senators that plan on an investigation for discipline and possible loss of his federal judgeship if he is not confirmed.

    He was dishonest about his knowledge of the 9/11 wire tapping program, while under oath to congress.

    He was dishonest under oath about the Pryor hearings.

    He was dishonest under oath about his involvement in the Pickering nomination.

    He lied about his knowledge of the stolen e-mails.

    All of these are verified dishonest statements made by Kavanaugh under oath and that doesn't even get into his his lies about his past in high school and college.


    The man has a serious integrity issue and as a history of being dishonest.

    So your claim that he is "incredibly honest" is the most absurd load of BS posted in some time.
     
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    "Passed out" means you do not know you are falling asleep. BK said he never "passed out" but admitted he would conscientiously go to sleep due to drinking too much. The left is grasping at straws here desperately trying to build their strawman. The sexual predator story hasn't worked so they are predictably moving the goalpost.
     
  20. Space Ghost

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    First he should be disqualified for be a rapist. Now we should disqualify him because he went to sleep instead of passing out.

    At least the whole Ford thing has merit.
     

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