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As long as there is Democracy and Capitalism I'm Good

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Don't need borders.

    Sometimes i feel like people only hold onto borders for no other reason than seperation.

    This isnt the 1700s. Transportation and communication technology has pretty much eliminated borders. We are holding on to something that's dead and has been dead and as far as US is concerned, really never was
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, without borders you can't have democracy or a functioning economy. Without borders you aren't a country which means you don't have a government.
     
  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Our economy is already global. Thats what you guys dont understand

    GM moved to Mexico a long time ago. You want poor countries to develop to develop more customers
     
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  4. WNBA

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    You want your own border because of democracy and you want to break anyone else's borders because of capitalism.
    Double standard is the standard.
     
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  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I understand the sarcasm but that is the irony on democracy and borders. We want to spread it

    China is becoming more and more democratic. There is no natural border with them and western democracies. It some way it helps. There is no physical contact between us and them just flow of ideas
     
  6. Space Ghost

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    Democracy and capitalism are not necessarily synonymous. I dont see china becoming more democratic.

    But I agree in the premise. The advent of the internet allows the exchange of thoughs freely across borders. The impending internet of money will eventually allow anyone to send funds to anyone directly. This will drastically change economics.

    However we will always have borders. From private property, to municipal, to county, to district, to state and on up to country.
    The question is will countries open up borders to allow people to live in the government they choose.. instead of ideologues trying to change the country to fit their narrative.
     
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Borders and wars were for food and resources. Really, the discovery of north snd south america has given the world so much in national resources its changed how countries get along.


    America's wealth of resources are key to its success and respect
     
  8. Severe Rockets Fan

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    I dunno man, your basically handing the cartels the valley cities...maybe Corpus if you don't enforce borders somewhat.
     
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  9. Dairy Ashford

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    We had those in 1862.
     
  10. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Whats the point. Are you referencing slavery civil war both neither?
     
  11. Dairy Ashford

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    I mean if you have to ask...
     
  12. Rocket River

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    Conflicting ideologies. . . .. intriguing

    Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct,

    Rocket River
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    What's your point. Good lord chill with the cryptic
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Democracy and capitalism go hand in hand

    RR i love you

    You have always sounded like a communist but i bet you love your paycheck like the next American

    You're seriously conflicted
     
  15. Dairy Ashford

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    American politics, particularly at the strategic and executive level, is more like an on-campus IFC dispute than some Roundhead Cavalier ****.
     
  16. Dairy Ashford

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    Serve and volley, Chairman Cain.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    The executive branch wants people getting money so they will get re-elected
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    Been thinking about borders too. I think the reason we've got more anal about borders is because of the obsolescence. National borders have long existed, and they were important on issues of controlling land and government, but not people. In early America, or in Europe in the same time, emigrating and immigrating was not controlled at the border. It was controlled by people being tied to the land by their economic necessities. Frenchmen stayed in France because that's where their farm was. Then they had the Revolution and the Frenchmen who got spooked hit the road and went to Austria or Lombardy or England or whatever. Foreigners who loved the Revolution came in. And it wasn't because of the chaos that the border wasn't controlled -- it'd never been controlled; it didn't need controlling because people didn't move that much. Now, wealth isn't tied to land, we have international markets, international travel, international communication and it has never been easier to pick up and move. You can still send money to family; you can still talk to grandma on the phone; you can still rent out your old apartment; you can still visit for Christmas and you'll be there in hours. We now have the capacity to be transnational, but governments don't want us to be transnational. They can't control people by controlling the land. So now they are trying to accomplish something that really has never been done in the history of humanity -- make a nonporous border to a free society.
     
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  19. WNBA

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    They do fight against each other hand-to-hand-ly
    Capitalism generates inequality. Democracy emphasizes equality.

    Capitalism is like an addictive fatal disease, democracy is the desperate cure. That's my metaphor.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    This is what i mean

    One is a political system and one is an economic system. Both are about freedom. You get an idea about something people need, you have freedom to start a business
     

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