She didn't correctly peg anything, literally everyone she said was at the party said that there was no party with her there.....and her friend who felt the need to apologize to her for having told the truth said that not only was there no party like that, she never met Brett Kavanaugh at any point and was never at a party with him. You can't just say that her story was corroborated when it was actually debunked.
Imagine telling a sexual assault victim who said she was 100% sure it was Kavanaugh that you believe she was sexually assaulted but you also believe she has misidentified the perpetrator of such a crime. The hypocrisy in such a statement is beyond appalling. You either believe her or you don't but you shouldn't be up there telling her she's pointing at the wrong guy like your words have any merit. I also thought Kavanaugh took the wrong approach to his opening. He sounded like Trump's little conspiracy theorist sidekick up there flying off the handle. It's bad enough we hear that smack from Trump but now we have Trump's lackey up there spouting the same bullshit. Not sure that's the kind of jaded person I want serving on the Supreme Court basically blaming all Democrats for his misfortunes. But, what I primarily take away from this is parties will look away from stuff like this if it is in their interests. If the positions were reversed, then it would be the Democrats defending their nomination and the Republicans up in arms. That's why the politics of this country are completely in tatters. It's broken. They are not interested in doing what is right for the American people as much as they are interested in doing what is in their and their parties' interests. It's just a big freaking joke and everyone can see it. The parties are at war with each other and it's non-stop. And, we have a president that is not even interested in trying to be impartial versus going off the rails against the other party any chance he gets. It's pathetic.
What do you tell someone who comes up with a story that they firmly believe that has absolutely no supporting evidence and that is actually debunked by everyone who could possibly corroborate the story.....including those who are their friends? When the facts suggest that the story cannot be accurate, what do you tell that person? You can believe that someone firmly believes the story they are telling without being forced to ignore the facts and reality. You can feel sympathy for her and still know that her story is inaccurate.
Kavanaugh should never play poker. He has an obvious "tell." He unconsciously will quickly "scrunch" his face, his nose, forehead, and eyebrows together whenever he's being dishonest. His "testimony" before the committee after Ms. Ford, clearly rehearsed during his many hours of prep at the White House, including his incredibly rude behavior towards the senators questioning him, his "high dungeon" while he told his numerous lies (he repeatedly claimed that "the seniors were 18 and legal," and that he was 18 when he was drinking back during the time in question, when in fact he wasn't and numerous other seniors were not), is just one example, in my humble opinion. This is a man who's supposed to take a seat for life on the nation's highest court responding to questions like a teenager lying to his parents when caught doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing. With countless other highly qualified men and women available to fill this seat, Kavanaugh is the "only" suitable candidate for trump, and therefore the Republican senators are supposed to approve the fellow? While ignoring what a poor and highly questionable pick he is, his highly questionable temperament and the reasons behind trump picking him? Reasons, in my opinion, having much to do with trump possibly needing another "friendly" vote on the Supreme Court if his legal difficulties end up involving that heretofore imminent body? When Kavanaugh was clearly the most difficult selection to confirm among those on the list reportedly being bandied about prior to his selection, what is the majority on the committee doing? Refusing to let the FBI investigate the man to clear his name, if it can be cleared. Refusing to call other witnesses to the incident in question, and other incidents. This clearly unsuitable pick is the best they can come up with? That beggars the imagination. They should be ashamed at their attempt to shove through this nomination just before the midterm elections. Heck, they should be ashamed to support this "man" at all, and for anything, much less a seat on the Surpreme Court. This is yet another nadir reached by the Republicans in Congress, just when one might reasonably think that they couldn't get any lower.
It makes me happy that you'll likely be upset about Kavanaugh being a SCOTUS justice for the rest of your life.
This is a purely political process now, and Kavanaugh had already tried the meek, scholarly approach. He had to get his hands dirty to get confirmed. That's a sad fact of how this works now, and both sides are at fault.
Senator Flake is flaking. I'm honestly not sure what Senator Flake is doing. He's trying to save face. But, he will not actually vote "no" on the Senate floor confirmation vote if it does come to a vote if the FBI is not allowed to investigate for another week? Or, maybe he will vote no? Or, he could abstain? I guess that's the dilemma he is presenting. This is funny. This is an off-the-table agreement Flake tried to set up here that has no enforcement.
Not sure who I believe here, although I'm inclined to believe her over him. No one really knows for sure, though, except him and her. Anyway, what I do know is that this has been the most bizarre, inept and frankly....weird nomination process I've ever seen. Of course, it is all in keeping with the Era of Trump, so no one should be surprised by it. I'm certainly not.
Well, of course you do. You're a very spiteful person as revealed by your statement in the other thread...that even if an extreme right wing SCOTUS were to take away rights, that's fine by you, the Democrats deserve it! It fits right in with that poll I linked yesterday that revealed that most conservatives don't care if Kavanaugh did it or not, they want him through regardless. So I understand why on a basketball forum most of your posts are here in this forum, politics is your favorite sport.
No one except Kavanaugh and Ford know for sure what happened but with all of the self righteous indignation showed by Kavanaugh I believe that her version of the facts is far more accurate than his version of the facts.
There are several scenarios. This isn't about believing or disbelieving. Its about the the reality vs the perception of the incident. -She could be knowingly fabricating this whole thing up (unlikely) -She could have confused Kavanaugh with someone else. -She could have misread the situation. The alleged perp. could have been very aggressive but not to the point of actually trying to rape her. This is not to say she didnt experience the fear she claims. -She could have witnessed someone elses experience and the experience manifested into herself. We can go on and on and on about possible scenarios. As I have repeatedly stated, a witness is one of the least credible means of proof. Then you factor alcohol into the scenario and it drifts further from reality. Add 3 decades to this alleged incident. Then added the therapy. Anyone who is not a partisan hack can go research memory recall and understand how insanely ignorant this whole thing is ... all while not trying to disrespect Fords troubles. Unless Kavanaugh comes out and admits to everything or all the women making accusations come out and admits it was fraud, we will never get remotely close to the truth. Not because we dont want to, but because we can't. This isn't not just about politicians, this includes everyone. Anyone who claims to be remotely objective about this circus will admit there is not enough evidence to make a judgement.
incorrect. Ford could be 100% right and Kavanaugh may not remember it. Kavanaugh could be 100% right and Ford completely experienced something totally different than she remembered. Most of us can't remember **** from 30 years ago unless there is some proof like videos or pictures. Yes, there are things we can remember back that far, but to expect half a dozen people to remember the same very specific incident at a nonspecific time/place is ludicrous. Feinstein leaking this with no hard proof is despicable and unethical.
Odd, you neglected one possible scenario: - Kavanaugh could have pinned her down, put his hand on her mouth to prevent her from yelling, tried to remove her clothing and groped her, while Judge watched.
To all those who have voted "yes" they believe Kavanaugh is guilty, I strongly hope you don't have like minded folks if you ever find yourself on trial.
I hope I do have like-minded folks if I'm on trial. I specifically said that I feel more likely than not, he did it. At the same time based on what I know with what is out there, I wouldn't vote to convict him. Of course, he wasn't on trial. And if he was on trial there would have been a legitimate investigation made into the claims.
There was an option that allowed for hearing the testimony first. (which is what I intially chose). Why not choose that option then?
