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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. mick fry

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    And maybe a witness with a vague memory that would also swear under oath. Dems have to try harder.
     
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    that's the subtext certainly, and this is what I take to have been the main point of Mitchell's final round of questions posed to Ford in yesterday's hearing
     
  3. Amiga

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    I think pretty much everyone here assumed that this doesn’t matter to GOP... we will ram it through.

    This is a bad sign of how the GOP could handle a non gop friendly result from mueller’s investigation.
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL Senator John Kennedy from Louisiana is basically a preacher.
     
  5. ipaman

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    not ford or this event genius. the #metoo movement has given women power, strength, etc... to report their assaults like never before so things like this (unreported) don't happen.
     
  6. ipaman

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    doesn't matter if they do or don't that's the point. if their fears (alleged victims lying) are true, and yes i do think they believe their own truths, then it will be them next. that's the logic.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    He doesn't actually have the underbite, but doesn't Richard Blumenthal look like James William Bottomtooth III

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  8. NewRoxFan

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    Obviously name-calling is part of the new political environment. But no matter... as someone that actually doesn't believe the "#metoo" movement has been all that successful, at least politically. The % of women in congress has been flat since 2013 (@2013), hopefully a bump in women winning in primaries will grow that number. And more important, the issues that are most important to women (healthcare, environment, education) will be more successfully legislated than they have so far during trump's presidency.

    I did post a tweet indicating the number of calls to a women's support hotlines increased. Hopefully, the outcome of the kavanagh hearing will not reverse that trend. But don't ignore that the outcome of kavanaugh being raised to the supreme court directly endangers women's choice.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    I think to the modern conservative, that is a thing of the past. Partisan judges (a disturbing concept maybe to me or you) are assumed to be a good and valuable thing now.

    Truly sad times. It may be difficult or even impossible to go back to the idea of healthy non-partisan appointments and public servants.
     
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  10. NewRoxFan

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    I think it does matter if a nominee has assault accusations in their past. This specific nominee certainly did. And I don't believe the accuser was lying. What is important is more careful screening/vetting. Since it didn't happen with Gorsuch.
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    Thanks trump!
     
  12. SamFisher

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    So basically she was asking for it.
     
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    Don't worry, there will be one fewer partisan SCOTUS justices fairly soon

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    I don't get the sense that there was "advice" to "sit" on the accusation.

    Again, this woman knew she would be setting her life and her family's life on fire for months or years to come if she came forward. If you can believe any of her testimony, I would hope someone could believe that. She hoped that the anonymous warnings she sent up the food chain to DC could help dissuade the GOP and Dear Leader from making BK the choice. She was wrong.

    But I agree with you this far: Her complaint would have stood a better chance of making a difference if she had boldly stepped forward earlier, like, as soon as BK's name came up on a short list.

    Now she'll have all the negative consequences and a (by all appearance) vindictive partisan frat-boy on the high court for another quarter century. At least she has sons and not daughters to suffer this country moving forward. Cold comfort but some comfort, I would think. Certainly glad I have neither at this point.
     
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    Jeff Flake May be flaking
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Actually that wouldn't have happened if Feinstien had respected her privacy and had brought the allegation to the committee to be handled in a confidential setting when she first received the report. They could have interviewed Ford in California....or Deleware, wherever she happened to be, and her name could have remained private. The FBI would have looked into it and managed to gather the same witness statements that the committee ended up with.......but the downside was that after the allegations were deemed to not be credible, they wouldn't have become public and couldn't have been used to try and score political points. That's why they decided to leak the information and force Ford into the public light putting both Ford and Kavanaugh's families through hell. Again, it was just more of the "any means necessary" type of "resist" BS from the left that has become so common.
     
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    Yeahhh it doesn't work like that. At this point, you're being willfully naive. When circumstances like these go public, names are permanently tarnished. There is no "embarrass them with innocence".

    This is not a binary issue. Ford and Kavanaugh both can be wrong and right at the same time. What is evident is everyone who has been named in this shitshow were spoiled entitled brats who spent way too much time drinking and partying. There is no "i only had 1 beer" nonsense. Anyone who was involved in those scenes back in the day probably have seen much worse. There all will steer very far from this in fear of other implications. This is why an investigation is pointless. The truth will never be known as a 3 decade old witness who spend many of their nights plastered are terrible witnesses.

    If Ford is truly struggling with these demons, its Feinstien who is the monster. She is using Ford as her personal political tool to stop what she doesn't want. The moment this is over, she will toss Ford to the side.
     
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    You should be happy about that, he's not giving up his senate seat to a Republican keeping hope alive that Democrats might be able to take the Senate.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    I think it is telling that those so called "in the middle" (ie. Collins and Manchin) are struggling so. They know they should be appalled by what happened. They know the people who are looking at them will judge them by their votes. And yet, they pretend they are giving it "careful consideration"... up until they sell their souls and vote to approve.
     

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