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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. KingCheetah

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    Rawr.
     
  2. NewRoxFan

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    This justification will age...

     
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  3. ipaman

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    Frontier Justice
     
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    To be clear, I said "if" if that were the extent of the allegation. It's not.

    Groping or copping a feel is a bad thing, I'm not defending it, but a 17 year old boy doing that should not be disqualified from anything later in life if that were the worst thing he ever did.
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    I've asked previously why even have USSC justices approved by the Senate. The most pointless exercise... simply have the president announce his nominee and skip the pretense of advise and consent. American will simply deserve whoever is placed on the court.

    After all (the republican's latest mantra)... "elections have consequences." Even if one of the consequences is the dismantling of our judicial system.
     
  7. ipaman

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    Well that's the thing, nobody knows anything but everyone (dems, reps, media, etc..) is acting like they do respectively.

    I will say that his nomination experience will either make him the most prepared SCJ of all time (based on intense public experience itself) or will make him the most cynical SCJ of all time.
     
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    Well, it didn't stop someone with honesty issues along with accusations of sexual assault from achieving a lifetime seat on the highest court in the land. Just as it didn't stop someone else with honesty issues (and other more serious issues) become president. Just wonder what other things people will overcome to achieve power in the future?
     
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    A very one-sided, tribal, tweet lamenting tribal policitics. LOLOLOOL!!!
     
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    Some are acting like they know, most want to find out if it's true.
     
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    Which requires the victim to produce the evidence that will prove the claim and that's going to be nearly impossible almost 40 years later. This new wave of frontier justice is killing that burden of proof and that's supposed to be a pillar of the US. It's a lose, lose, lose for everyone despite the outcome. If he's rejected, Americans and their Burden of Proof loses, Frontier Justice wins. Kavanaugh and the alleged victims have already lost regardless if he "wins" or "loses." You could argue that ensuring Burden of Proof wins is more important to Americans than a single person. A sacrifice for the greater good considering all the circumstances of the situation.
     
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    FBI should do an investigation.
     
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    Sure, especially if he came clean about it and admitted it, instead of claiming to be the REAL VICTIM and doubling and tripling down on ridiculous lies and half truths while under oath, because the person you're trying to impress admires that quality...in a Supreme Court justice.
     
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    Celebrate... you won. Someone accused of sexual assault, someone who repeatedly did not not tell the truth, someone that will overturn precedence and actively protect the president that nominated him from the possibility of criminal liability, someone that will increase the power of that same president to pardon... that someone "won". So you won.
     
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    Was Lindsey Graham always like this? My view of him definitely changed after this past few weeks.
     
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    Okay sure but based on what, 40 year old circumstantial evidence?!

    Let me be clear, I'm a champion for women and you can check my post history. But the type of power women need is to have the power to speak up in the moment which admittedly they haven't always had. But they do now and that's a victory for women. Having said that, this new power cannot include "reparation" like justice. That could undermine their new important powers and risk losing them again. i.e. freed blacks didn't get the right to own whites after they got their "power."

    -edit- i want to add that woman can speak up of old experiences but they shouldn't expect investigations that lead to guilty verdicts. speak up to add to the power that women have for future victims.
     
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    read my previous post. women have won too but they risk losing it. progress means moving forward not backwards.
     
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    Do some reading about Fords High School days, I have a feeling there will be a lot more of this story told.
     
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    Not at all, he's always been a squishy moderate that never gets fired up about anything and wants to be friends with everyone. The scummy way that this process was handled by those on the left really got to him it seems. I honestly didn't know he had it in him.
     
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