We don't need the WALL it is proven to not work, that would disrupt hundreds of Texans on their land, I am all for a digital wall though, more technology and boots on the ground....that works. DD
This is the kind of dangerous narrow isolationist thinking. Trade isn't a zero sum deal. Many businesses such as farmers can't survive just selling to the domestic market. I live in Minnesota and there are farmers who might lose their farms because they can't sell their soybeans overseas. Further if you take Trump at his words that other countries should improve themselves then we definitely should trade with them. That is the only way they can grow and develop and ultimately buy more US products and services. Protectionism has never worked as a long term strategy and it's not working now either.
Trump is banking on a better over all trade deal that will benefit America including the farmers, it’s the art of the deal. Not sure you can argue against his current economic success.
the classic eg in modern time has been Japan. for a long time, Post WW2 to the early 1990s, its protectionist policies had prevented US automakers / Chinese calligraphy ink products / EU spirits from entering Japan's market, FedEx / other foreign freight carriers gaining landing rights in Japan's airports once the #2 economy in the world, w a realistic aspiration of surpassing the US economy, Japan has been stuck in the mud since the 1990s
Yes you can - its simply short term gain traded for long term losses. The premise for your trade deal argument is that the trade deals are the problems but they are not, so getting a 'better' overall trade deal is not going to make things better. The problem with America is internal not external
your parroting / regurgitating Trump's meaningless rhetoric underscores your lack of understanding a little more detail would help, describe what a better overall trade deal entails? describe what a trade deal benefiting the farmers entails?
Current economic success has nothing to do with tarriffs. In fact a trade war is the one major threat to the economy. Most frequent drops in the market correlate with trade threats being made by the US or Chinese leadership. The economy could be doing even better if not for tariffs and trade threats.
Beto will focus on the needs and best interests of Texans. cruz? He will always focus on the needs and best interests of ted cruz...
Most mainstream news is leftist, or at least sensationalist. Yes, Bloomberg is leftist. Yes, the WSJ is leftist. Even Fox is sometimes leftist. Leftist, or sensationalist, but those are arguably the same thing. Why in the heck would I pay attention to what's happening to farmers? Unless they can't get their stuff to the store, it doesn't affect me. Some of you political junkies must not have lives or full time jobs, as much attention as you pay to the MSM news. As I mentioned above, I used to pay attention to all the news programs. Then I realized they were either lying to me, or subscribing to a false narrative. Or, at least, not asking the fundamental questions. I don't have the time to spend watching propaganda. And even if I had the time, I still would not choose to spend it that way. Life is too short, and there are better things to do with it. Once you have a full-time job, responsibilities, bills, a long commute -- you don't have time to slavishly watch every spinmeister that comes on TV. Once you reach that point in life, you pay attention to the things that affect you, and only those things. That's all you have time for. And increasingly, that's all I have time for. Your fascination with subsidies to farmers (and apparent outrage at same) is amusing to me. Yes, I don't like it, just as I don't like anything that further explodes the national debt. But we've been subsidizing farmers since the 1930s, so the concept is hardly new.
So if the WSJ (owned by News Corp) and Fox News (owned by News Corp) are too leftist for your taste, where does that put you on the spectrum? How freaking far right does one have to be to consider Fox News and the WSJ too leftist?
why dont you tell me what news sources are acceptable to you...i cant believe you think bloomberg, fox and WSJ are now "leftist". how can someone be this much of a brainwashed tool? youre the one who was arging that trump did not give $12 billion in subsidies to farmers to make up for his tariffs...then you say you dont pay attention to farmers. you have made it clear to all that you dont pay attention - the question is why are you arguing about something you are willfully ignorant about? stop being such a weak minded tool! again, you have to go out of your way to avoid the news to not be aware of trump giving $12 billion in subsidies to farmers. wow. so now people who pay attention to the news/current events dont have lives or full time jobs...that is a pretty weak-minded and moronic claim. im curious why someone who says they dont follow the news at all would be in the D&D aruging about the news. you have chosen to not pay attention, yet here you are arguing with people who actually do. lol...like argue with people on the internet about things you know nothing about? spoken like a true weak-minded partisan hack. lol...so people who post on the D&D dont have any of those things? are you really this much of a tool? so what are you doing here then? why are you arguing with people about things that you are intentionally ignorant about? so pointing out that trump has given $12 billion in subsidies to farmers to offset his tariffs means im "fascinated"? that is cute. honestly, im more fascinated by you...i find it bizarre that an adult could be so ignorant about the news/current events, yet want to argue with people about things they intentionally know nothing about. also, does this comment mean you now acknowledge that trump gave $12 billion in subsidies to farmers? first you said it didnt happen, then you said you dont care and now you are acknowledging it. i guess that is progress, but you still have a very long way to go. again, stop being such a freaking tool!
Exactly. Ted Cruz hasn't ever cared about truly representing Texans. We are a stepping stone for his higher aspirations. If he senses that he can run for president again in 2020, he will.
I don't think Ted Cruz has any chance at the presidency. You have to have a little charisma and the ability to work with people. I don't even know how he won Texas Senate. I don't think the people who voted for him like him.
from Bret Stephens Raphael Cruz is the type of man who would sell his family into slavery if that’s what it took to get elected, and would use said slavery as a sob story to get himself reelected
1) Wow, why all the venom? I'm truly astounded. 2) I'm pretty sure I never made any claim about farmer subsidies one way or the other, except that it has been going on since the 30s. And I'm not even sure why that "fact" even entered this discussion. 3) Once you take the "red pill," you see things through a new lens. Pretty much all of our society, and media, and much of our government is leftist and gynocentric. Once you accept that, which perhaps you will in a few years, then you'll start to see what I'm talking about. Yes, the WSJ runs leftist articles as does Bloomberg. Pretty much the only dependable website is Breitbart, although they tend to be sensationalist as well. There are other good sources on YouTube that fly under the radar, and are not beholden to any kind of party or corporate interest. 4) I'm here because I was once a Rockets fan (not so much of the current iteration); and more to the point, in the D&D section because I wanted to participate in the marketplace of ideas, and to show a different perspective than the leftist group think that (shockingly) pervades this website. 5) I don't need to know what the status of agriculture subsidies is, to have an intelligent thought on Beto vs Cruz, or whatever. To suggest that I do have to have that is ridiculous. 6) Back to the point of this thread, Beta's proposal to have the single payer plan will no doubt break the federal budget even further, when we are already $21 trillion in debt. To me, that debt is the biggest threat to our country (yes, more than terrorism or anything else). So, I wanted to make this point in this thread, which subsequently wandered around on taxes and government spending etc. 7) Yes, to me, if you sound like a DC policy wonk with an intense level of knowledge about agri-subsidies, you're paying too much attention to the news -- unless that's your business. Then, it makes sense. I don't see how anyone can have a productive day watching and listening to spin all day. 8) If people can't discuss ideas without frothing at the mouth, then we are headed toward civil war, of some sort. I don't believe I have attacked any body, unlike others here.
