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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. mick fry

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    Comparing Carlson to any one of the fake news outlets does not make them any more credible.
     
  2. tallanvor

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    Dont believe these people either. I think every nut is coming out of the woodwork. Media needs to be more responsible. Only report what you can verify
     
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  3. jcf

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    My presumption is that her statement was written by a team and highly edited. Maybe she was involved in the drafting, but I think attorneys may have taken her thoughts/statements and ghost wrote this for her.

    Not saying that she didn't approve final version and made sure it was what she wanted to say. But, most folks don't testify in front of the Senate (even in more normal circumstances) without having their opening statements carefully scripted.
     
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    interesting week for politics junkies



     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    My mind isn't made up whether these accusations are true or not and would very much like to have an FBI investigation. If Kavanaugh is really innocent that would be the best thing for him. Besides that though if I was a senator I would vote against him just on the basis that he's argued for weakening the balance of power by protecting the executive from subpoena and indictment. If Bill Clinton in 1998 had nominated for USSC someone who had expressed that opinion the Republicans would be howling and rightfully so.
     
  6. B-Bob

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    I better see what you're saying now. I just don't think she's going with the full-on "it was suppressed -- only recently did the horror of the attack return to me!" Like I said earlier, I felt that label was being used to throw shade on her.

    Maybe you know more about her, but it seemed to me she may have seen multiple therapists on and off over the years, from her statement (which I've not read entirely!) But maybe indeed she only saw a couples counsellor circa 2012.

    I do know a couple of people who felt screwed up by family trauma or even in one case an attack and they said in influenced them to go into therapy as a career.

    For what it's worth, there are plenty of fat heart doctors. And... plenty of basketball coaches who can't hoop (?)
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  7. utgrad97

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    Or better yet, why not file a police report with the Montgomery County Police Department. They are the ones that should be investigating this claim, as they have the power to arrest and bring charges against the guilty. This about finding justice after all.
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    So if a fat doctor shamed my diet after revealing it to him, then can I reply, “Fine, I’ll have what you’re having”?
     
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    You can't make this **** up.


    (or can you?!?!?)

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  10. jcf

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    What is interesting to me is the almost eager willingness of folks to assume almost any man is capable of horrific attacks on women. (clearly. Some are).

    But the same folks might condemn one who says women are capable of horrific acts -- whether it is harassment or lying for gain, fame or just to destroy someone.

    Oddly, we seem to have reached a point in our culture that is laudable to assume a man is evil but utterly shameful to apply base motives to women.

    Doesn't make much sense to me. We are all humans. We are al flawed to different degrees. There are horrifically flawed men and horrifically flawed women.

    And it it tiresome to always have the politically correct presumption be that the man is at fault or you are victim blaming.

    Could Kavanaugh be guilty? Sure. Could these be be bs allegations to further a critical political purpose when the stakes are incredibly high. I think "sure".

    Tomorrow will be interesting.
     
  11. foh

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    Let's assume what you said is true..

    Once the sexual assault stats start to go down in frequency, the culture you describe above will change? Give it time?

    1 in 6 women is raped in their lifetime per this link:
    https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem

    Be happy that, as a guy, you are unlikely to be raped (1 out of 33 chance of that)?
     
  12. tallanvor

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    Ridiculous. An investigation will never be able to prove a 35 yr old allegation with no date or location is false. It will never be able to prove his innocence. It wont help him. Meanwhile more nuts will come out of the woodwork. And why does it need to be FBI? Why not the police who have jurisdiction?
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    To answer both you and Tallnovr. It's because one this isn't a criminal investigation but a deep background investigation. For example as a coach every few years I have to get a background check. That is done by the FBI and not by my local LE. The FBI is set up for this. Further if there is evidence that there is a crime that is still valid under statute of limitations the FBI can refer that crime to the local LE.
     
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    Yes, much like the written statements by people that the Senate and some on this message board are using to say there is no basis for investigation. The difference is that after her statement, she will actually answer questions the other witnesses/participants were not asked any questions and the Republicans blocked anyone from issuing a subpoena in order to ask them questions about their carefully crafted statements written with their lawyers.
     
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    The FBI have done 6 background checks...... must have missed the gang rape parties.

    Another wont clear his name. Its probably the worst thing kavanaugh could ask for.
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    I am sure the FBI surveyed students at HS and college about Kavanaugh's drinking and sex assault habits...
     
  17. cml750

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    That is an oxymoron
     
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  18. FranchiseBlade

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    It absolutely could clear his name. There could be an alibi for him, discovering that the accuser wasn't able to be in the same place where Kavanaugh, etc.

    It would be the best thing for an innocent man.
     
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