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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. tallanvor

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    The problem is what happens when the minority party use it for obstruction and leverage.

    At the root of the problem are the party themselves and the associated partisan politics. These politicans seem to be more loyal to their party and big donors than to their constituents. We might be better off getting rid of political parties, corporate donations and donations from outside interests (e.g. only people eligible to vote in texas can contribute in a texas senate election) -. Let the system revert to an individual politician dealing directly with the individual members of his constituents.
     
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  3. tallanvor

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    I dont agree with false narratives

    By a simple majority vote, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., set a new precedent in the Senate that will ease the confirmation for President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch on Friday, after 30 more hours of debate on the floor.

    "This will be the first, and last, partisan filibuster of a Supreme Court justice," said McConnell in a closing floor speech.
     
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  5. tallanvor

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    Got em
     
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    In case anyone here is still banging the "but muh evidence!" drum:

    Sworn affidavits are evidence.

    If the people who submitted these statements are shown to be lying, they will go to j-a-i-l.
     
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    So tallanvor, since Julie Swetnick submitted her claims in an affidavit under penalty of perjury, you must believe her, right?
     
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    You are in an endless circle. Until the investigation involves actual questioning they can't conclude whether it is credible or not. You seem to have made up your mind without an investigation that it isn't credible. So of course to you, there is no reason to investigate. You picked your narrative and won't let anything interfere with that. The rest of us would like real questioning and not be as naive as you appear to be and just rely on one written statement made by people with their lawyers.

    Some of us like it when investigations actually involve asking questions. When investigations actually allow testimony and evidence they are a more credible investigation.
     
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    No. Why would i?
     
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    Given your impassioned defense of the penalty of perjury a couple of days ago, that is the only reasonable conclusion.

    I think you must be mistaken, clearly you believe her. Nobody who spoke so passionately about the sanctity of afadavits could think otherwise.
     
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    I said Ford wouldn't testify because of fear of perjury. Also because of her obvious behavior.


    Or you could just read a few posts back. Clearly stated I thought she could perjure herself but didnt think she would.

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php...n-further-right.291985/page-106#post-11975906
     
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    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...tions-answered-about-nuclear-option-filibust/

    Not surprisingly, you live in a post factual world. The facts are very clear... Reid excluded Supreme Court justices. mcconnell then changed to include Supreme Court justices. And here we are...
     
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    I must of backpedaled long before your comments........
     
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    Perhaps you can settle this... cite the time when Democrats changed the vote to require only a majority for a Supreme Court justice? I know republicans did for Gorsuch, but which time did Democrats do it?

     
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    I keep having to remind myself that they are old southern republicans...

     
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    They never did it for a supreme court judge. They did for other federal judges which allowed it to be used for the supreme court judge. That was Reid's point. That's why he says 'I changed the rules so we only need a majority for supreme court judges in the future'. Your position seems to be that even though Reid changed the rules, because he never got to use it for a supreme court judge that he didn't change the rules. This is obviously wrong. It's Harry Reid's nuclear option. He invented it. He was proud and boasting of the fact that he changed the rules. Republicans were pissed he changed the rules, but everyone agrees that he changed the rules.

    You posting some spin from years later doesn't change the story.
     
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