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Beto vs Ted

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 24, 2018.

  1. BruceAndre

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    Did the part about the "rich" getting hammered on their tax deductions not have substance? It's clearly provable.

    I pay attention to what's happening, but I don't listen to the arbiters of the leftist philosophy that masquerade as mainstream news. There's only so much propaganda one can take without becoming ill.

    And for the record, there's a number of things about Trump I don't like, but I'll take him over HRC every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
     
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  2. BruceAndre

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    Heh. People keep going back to this family stuff. I don't even know what this is about, and I don't need to know. I just need to know who's more likely raise taxes and erode freedoms. In aggregate, that's going to be Beta.
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    So you listen to only what you agree with...... now you make sense....
     
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    @BruceAndre will literally vote for the spawn of satan so long as he doesn't raise his taxes. for the sake of your family, i hope you don't have one.
     
  5. peleincubus

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    I'm sorry but that is just flat out dumb. To believe someone would go to the absolute floor and crap on his own sister's memory to make a point about decriminalizing drugs (mind you we have the largest prison population by a damn mile) would not have the morals to not be bought out by others. While the other person he is running against is taking money from only small donors. All of those things matter. But I digress, vote for Mr. Cruz he has your best intentions in mind. Assuming you make close to a million a year.
     
  6. JumpMan

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    Beto looks like Napoleon Dynamite. Vote Napoleon.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    And his campaign is effectively "Vote Pedro"
     
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  9. BruceAndre

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    Ha ha, extremism much? I'm pragmatic.

    It depends on what you mean by family. I don't have any dependents, by design.
     
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  10. Buck Turgidson

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    Ted Cruz is a complete piece of human garbage. Trump is the same. I would and will vote for literally anyone instead of them.

    R/D, don't care.

    How people can support these individuals I have absolutely no idea.
     
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  11. CCorn

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    Legit question. What do you do for a living?
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Why do you ask?
     
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    Just curiosity.
     
  14. BruceAndre

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    No, I'm not in that income range, but it doesn't matter to my philosophy. Whatever amount you make, you should have the right to keep most (I would say almost all) of it. It's actually what's morally right. "Taxation is theft" -- it's largely true.

    And then you look at the stupid and inefficient ways our government spends money -- through taxation and the welfare state, we are rewarding dysfunction and penalizing success and hard work.

    As for whatever you're going on about Cruz's sister, I have no idea. Again, it's his business, not mine.

    I used to be a news junkie. I used to watch Meet the Press every Sunday, Charlie Rose and the other shows religiously. And then I began to see the bias. And the fundamental questions that were not being asked. And then Chuck Todd said with glee: "Trump Can't Win." I began to tune out of the MSM news after that.

    So, I have no idea what this Cruz sister thing is about. It doesn't affect me. At a certain point in life, you only have time to study and concern yourself with the things that affect you. Taxes affect me. Traffic gridlock affects me. There are a few other things like that, that have to do with government. Worrying about anything else is a waste of time.

    Yes, the war on drugs is a joke, and the DEA budget is, along with welfare, and other things, part of the theft through taxation. And the growth of the police state. I'm against all this.

    Yes, the fact that so many people are in prison should be a huge scandal, but it's not. Again, this is because: 1) too many people value security over freedom 2) we are subsidizing certain groups to reproduce, while providing a disincentive to others (yes, I know the howls are coming from the PC crowd, whatever) 3) the growth of the police state, which ties back to #1. Both major parties and the American people in general are complicit for allowing this to happen. But, see point #1.
     
  15. Buck Turgidson

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    You keep parroting this, but it is total horsesh!t. If you can't research and learn things (holy ****?! look at this internet!) it's your fault for being too lazy or stupid. Or just disingenuous/totally-full-of-****, which is the most likely scenario.
     
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    LOL it's not. The fact that even you point out that I'd have to "research" in order to find out where Whitey O'Rourke stand on the issues just reinforces the notion that up till the first debate he was entirely running on "Vote for Beto"
     
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  18. jo mama

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    stop being such a freaking tool dude.

    i cant believe this is news to you! it just shows how little you pay attention. honestly, you almost have to go out of your way to avoid news/current events to have not heard about trumps plan to give $12 billion in subsidies to farmers to offset his stupid tariffs.

    its one thing to argue the merits of trumps tariffs and farm subsidies, but its another to not even be aware they are happening...sad.

    is bloomberg "leftist"?
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-said-to-ready-plan-for-trade-struck-farmers


    is fox news "leftist"?
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/24/trump-feeds-farmers-pork-to-ease-tariff-woes.html
    how about the wall street journal? are the "leftist" now too?
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-says-tariffs-are-the-greatest-1532437480
     
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    NYT's Bret Stephens, a conservative but a never-Trumper, has offered his observation on Rafael Cruz


    Bret Stephens calls Rafael Cruz ‘a serpent covered in Vaseline’


    "Because he treats the American people like two-bit suckers in 10-gallon hats."

    "Because he sucks up to the guy who insulted his wife — by retweet, no less,".

    "Because of his phony piety and even phonier principles,"
    "Because his ethics are purely situational.
    "Because he makes Donald Trump look like a human being by comparison."

    "Because his fellow politicians detest him, and that’s just among Republicans,"
    "Because he never got over being the smartest kid in eighth grade."

    "Because he’s the type of man who would sell his family into slavery if that’s what it took to get elected,"
    "And that he would use said slavery as a sob story to get himself reelected."

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...-calls-ted-cruz-a-serpent-covered-in-vaseline
     
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    Never Trumpers are worse than Democrats. They're still mad that Trump took the party from their weak hands.
     

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