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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. juicystream

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    Telling police would do what all of these years later? They wouldn't investigate crimes that are past the statute of limitations. I don't know what kind of proof people expect. It isn't like today where everybody has a camera in their pocket or instant ways of informing the world of every little thing they desire.

    It wouldn't shock me either way if these were true or totally false. I know I don't trust Kavanaugh.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    There are 0 credible accusations of sexual assault or rape....just as many credible accusations that Obama was a secret Kenyan Muslim. Pretending otherwise is disingenuous.

    Imagine what would happen if we uncovered concrete evidence that every single elected member of the DNC was in a secret murder cult where they took illegal immigrants and ritualistically murdered them in a large ceremony once per year. That would really lead to a lot of impeachments!!!

    You just can't make **** up and say "what if"

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  3. foh

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    So you saying Trump can be a birther and demand Obama birth certificate, but Ford can't be assaulted by her friend and then demand some form of justice/satisfaction for it?
    Interesting proposition.
    I may need a citation for that one!
     
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  4. cml750

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    If she just wants to testify it would not matter who does the questioning. Since she is making a criminal complaint, it actually makes more sense to do this the way the Republicans are setting it up. She specifically requested that it not be outside counsel and only the Senators question her. The game is obvious that they want to make the Republicans look bad when they expose her flimsy story. Surely you have enough sense to realize this?
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm saying that Trump didn't get an FBI investigation when he was pulling his "birther" BS and he didn't get to testify in front of the senate about it either.....and I don't think Ford or anyone else should be able to get those things with allegations as baseless as the birther BS.

    Now that said, since Ford is alleging a crime took place, she can go to the police and see if they'll open an investigation on nothing more than her baseless allegation.....but let's face it, they know they'd just get laughed out of the building or they'd have tried that. The only people you are going to convince with completely baseless allegations are people who just want to believe them no matter what....seemingly like you.
     
  6. MojoMan

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    She was never going to testify.
     
  7. TheresTheDagger

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    Creepy p*rn Lawyer hoaxed?

     
  8. KingCheetah

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    Avenatti is Saul Goodman in real life.
     
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  9. Major

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    Pretty damning article as to Kavanaugh's general truthfulness.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/25/supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-is-hard-to-believe.html

    Brett Kavanaugh unequivocally denies allegations of sexual misconduct two women have made against him. No one who wasn't there can know with certainty what's true.

    But President Trump's Supreme Court nominee has gone beyond simply denying those allegations about his behavior more than 30 years ago. In the process, Kavanaugh has deepened questions about his present-day credibility – a bedrock requirement for the lifetime job he now seeks.

    In an interview with Fox News, Kavanaugh all but denied even participating in the raucous party culture of elite private schools he attended. Instead, he portrayed himself as dutiful and devout.


    "I went to an all-boys Catholic high school," explained Kavanaugh, now a federal appeals court judge. "I was focused on academics and athletics, going to church every Sunday at Little Flower, working on my service projects, and friendship – friendship with my fellow classmates, and friendship with the girls from the local all-girls Catholic schools."

    Kavanaugh acknowledged attending parties where, with the drinking age then at 18, "seniors were legal and had beer there." Never, he insisted, had he become so inebriated as to subsequently forget his actions.

    He didn't stop there. Kavanaugh denied not just sexual misconduct, but having sex at all during high school and "for many years thereafter."


    Set aside the fact that neither Kavanaugh accuser claims he had sex with them. The judge's self-description strains credulity in multiple ways.

    One Yale classmate promptly spoke up to say Kavanaugh once told him a contradictory story about his sexual experience. Another recalled Kavanaugh's penchant for becoming "incoherently drunk."

    At Yale, Kavanaugh joined a fraternity whose members waved a flag made of women's panties for a photo in the campus newspaper. He belonged to an all-male secret society known for drinking and its crude sexual nickname.

    That matches public evidence from Kavanaugh's high school days. Kavanaugh's friend and Georgetown prep football teammate, Mark Judge, wrote a memoir entitled "Wasted" that described a hard-drinking milieu involving a character identified as "Bart O'Kavanaugh."
    California college professor Christine Blasey Ford claims Judge was there when Kavanaugh attempted to rape her when she was 15.

    Nor does Kavanaugh's pious current account line up with his Georgetown Prep yearbook. Among his activities, it lists "100 Kegs or Bust" and "Beach Week Ralph Club – biggest contributor." There was also sexual innuendo.

    Though Kavanaugh told Fox he always treated women with "dignity and respect," the yearbook names him and other football players as "alumni" of a particular girl from a nearby Catholic school. Now the woman, who signed a letter backing Kavanaugh for the court before having seen those yearbook references, calls the insinuation "horrible, hurtful and simply untrue" in an interview with the New York Times.

    Kavanaugh inspired doubts about his truthfulness before the misconduct allegations surfaced.

    He evaded questions about whether he'd join other Republican-appointed justices to reverse the 1973 Roe v. Wade abortions rights decision, even though he emerged as a Supreme Court prospect from a conservative vetting process designed to ensure that he will. That reticence matches how justices appointed by presidents of both parties have steered clear in their confirmation hearings of cases that may later come before them.

    Kavanaugh disclaimed any knowledge of a sexually-inappropriate culture in the chambers of Alex Kozinski, a federal judge for whom he clerked. Other clerks have called that culture, which ultimately forced Kozinski's resignation, an open secret.

    Kavanaugh disclaimed knowledge of the fact that, as a Bush White House aide, he had been using stolen Democratic intelligence in plotting strategy to confirm judicial nominees. A Senate Republican aide had purloined it from Senate Democratic computer files.

    "Judge Kavanaugh has repeatedly made misleading and at times false statements," Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein said earlier this month. Her Democratic colleague Patrick Leahy wrote in the Washington Post, "Time and again, Kavanaugh appears to have misled the Senate under oath."

    Republican rejected those earlier Democratic credibility complaints as simple partisanship. Now, seeking to shield himself from his female accusers, Kavanaugh has invited new ones.
     
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  10. NewRoxFan

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    It does not matter who does the questioning? Are you serious? Surely you have enough sense to know who asks, and how they ask, makes a huge difference.
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    My issues with kavanaugh from the start... a lack of truthfulness, a willingness to ignore or overturn precedence, and his position on whether a presidents and criminal acts. The alleged sexual assault crimes have to be investigated. But his lack of truthfulness should be enough to not approve.
     
  12. NewRoxFan

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    murkowski and collins will eventually vote yes on kavanaugh...

     
  13. biina

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    Why not let the Democrats also hire external counsel to cross examine?
     
  14. Deckard

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    Why not just "take back the vote" given to women? What's the difference?
     
  15. TheresTheDagger

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    Democrats were against FBI reports before they were for them?

     
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  16. tallanvor

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    You could , get this, report the crime when it happened.

    Nobody who as accused kavanaugh of wrong doing has ever told anything to authorities because they would then suseptable to criminal charges.
     
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    The Senate Judiciary Committee just scheduled a vote on Judge Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation, which will take place at 9:30 a.m. on Friday, CNN reported.
     
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  19. NewRoxFan

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    You can see the republican senate is taking this seriously... just wave kavanaugh through...
     
  20. Nook

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    LOL
    Some but he has more of a NY nasty unpleasantness to him... he is more of a Bruce Cutler type. The type of guy that defends mobsters and was involved in moving some kilos to a guy named Manny to pay off what he owes the IRS.
     
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