Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

This has become quite the kangaroo court. If Kavanaugh doesnt make it, Im sure the Republicans will happily put Amy Coney Barrett in his place.

 

It is all unfortunate. I don't like the way it's being conducted. I don't like that we'll never know for sure. I don't like that our country always struggles to reconcile its past, where certain behavior was more tolerable, with a present, where it is not tolerable.

But I also don't want someone who had a history of treating women as objects to inhabit the high court. I actually care if the allegations are true, and we'll never know for sure.

A friend of mine, an established PI, said roughly 5-10% sexual assault claims are spurious, in his multi-decades of experience. So 90-95% have credibility, on average. But Kavanaugh could be within the 1/20 or 1/10 that has a woman making a false claim, and then a 2nd woman, at same odds, making that claim. But that puts him in the 1/100 or 1/400 range, statistically speaking.

I don't buy that these women are just political hacks, but I'm sure some desperately want to view them that way, and it could be true. Just very odd that one would cook up her scheme years in advance.

 

Well it's the Republicans' fault that it's gotten this bad, they shouldn't have bowed to Ford's demands, if they didn't this would be over already. Instead, they gave the Democrats an extra week to levy false accusations and roll with every dirty trick that they've ever thought of. They need to put an end to this on Friday by confirming Kavanaugh. They should just flat out ignore any new false allegations unless they happen to be credible.

 

You can't compare the normal incidence of false sexual assault allegations to those that are made clearly for political reasons. These sexual assault allegations should be viewed the same way the accusations of Obama being a Kenyan Muslim were.....those people demanded an FBI investigation too BTW.

 

Maybe.... but imagine for a second that Avenatti has evidence..... and the Republicans rammed BK through..... we would be looking at an impeachment of BK which would be bad for the Republicans.

In the entire history of the Supreme Court, this is only the second time a prospective Justice has been accused of sexual assault. So the Republicans had to tread lightly.

The recent statements of Trump are not really doing the Republicans any favors with women and moderates.

 

Imagine what would have happened if they found evidence that Obama was a Kenyan Muslim....that would have been bad.

Now that we're done with the fantasy/infowars part of this conversation, let's get back to reality. In reality, Ford's accusation was so baseless you'd never get any level of law enforcement to even look into it despite it being a felony accusation with no statue of limitations and Ramirez's accusation is even less credible if such a thing is possible. Both false allegations have come from politically active left wingers and the Avenatti nonsense isn't even worth talking about because he's notoriously full of **** and as far as everyone knows, he just made the whole thing up. I mean I think it's more likely that he gets disbarred in the next few months than he actually has something of substance here.

 

Imagine this is a Democrat president appointing a Democratic judge, what would the GOP do and what would the Democrats do, I do not believe the Democrats would push it through like the GOP is doing. That tells you all you need to know about the current GOP leaders.

 

If it was a Democrat nominee you wouldn't have had women talked into lying about sexual assault in the first place.

 

I am not an Avenatti fan, I have posted numerous times that I believe that he is a grandstanding, self serving figure.

What has he said that has shown that he is full of ***?

As far as I can tell, his track record is actually pretty good (doesn't mean he isn't a scumbag).

 

As far as I know she is free of scandal and hasn't done anything criminal or unprofessional.

No, she doesn't respect precedence and that is the larger issue with her.

Also, don't kid yourself.... if she is appointed and confirmed, Roe v. Wade will be gone....... and the fight for confirmation will be extremely difficult and nasty on the issue of abortion alone. The question is would the Republicans have the votes for her? It would be 50-50 at best.

The safest candidate would be Thomas Hardiman but Trump and the Republicans would have to worry about if he would become too moderate on the bench. He is in a similar vein as Kennedy and possibly even Souter.

 

He has a long history of complaints against him and is the very definition of a shyster lawyer. He's facing disbarment in California due to some of these complaints and instances where he defrauded clients.

If he actually had a client who came forward with credible allegations, that would be one thing, but he's just running his mouth while saying that "his client" may never come forward....sorry I just can't buy that.

 

If the Republcans allow Kavanaugh to be pushed aside by baseless allegations their only option is to go ever further right or they lose their base. There's nothing "safe" about nominating a moderate in that situation, it would essentially doom the party.

 

Sometimes it is not that bad to take a step back, I say let the GOP get rid of Roe if they really want to do it.

 

LMAO, funny how you can state the term “baseless accusations” and then throw out “women lying about sexual assault”. Sometimes, I think I hear a sarcastic lilt to your tone, like a Colbert Report era Colbert. I think I will just read you that way going forward to save myself any grief in thinking you should be taken seriously by anyone.

 

You do understand that "baseless allegations" can be and often are "lies" right?

 

You do understand that it’s a completely baseless allegation to state that the Dems coerced her to lie about a sexual assault, right?

 

Not really, at least when it comes to Ramirez's account. The author of the article says that Senate Democrats sought her out and when they got to her she said that she didn't know who it was.....and she went on to ask others about it saying that she couldn't really say what happened or who did what due to how drunk she was.....but then after talking with the lawyer the DNC sent her for a week, she changes her tone and now starts throwing out the baseless accusations....so yeah, you can say that Senate Democrats coerced her to lie about it. In fact, it's pretty obvious that's what happened.