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Sources: Rockets have eyes on Jimmy B

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Sep 18, 2018.

  1. J.R.

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    Prima Donna Butler! Just a diva from Tomball, TX! ;)

     
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  2. izeroi

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    Always assumed it would be a one year run.
     
  3. dragonwill

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    F5 everyday in this thread.:(
     
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    If he had plans of staying on after a year or championship my guess is that conversation already happened. He joined for the minimum when he could have taken the TP MLE. My guess is if he works out well he gets the majority of a TP MLE next year and maybe one more year. He is getting his money through other sources this year but not stretched so he will not get paid next year. I highly doubt we give Melo a 4yr MLE without making at least 2 nonguaranteed. No one else in the league really has more to offer him or will. We would still have the BAE available. That is part of why it is critical we use our MLE at the deadline on someone worth keeping and sign them multiyear if possible or we only have non Bird rights. I doubt Melo would sign vet min again like GG. Also critical that we improve our assets because we literally only have trades and vet min from now on and why going all out for this trade in the unlikely event it could actually happen. I put that trade up there previously simply because we need to get as close to nonflexible as possible with as much talent and upgrade every possible asset. It's much harder to do that when you don't have the leverage of a big trade like this. When you give up things to get things it gets messy and requires more trading. You want to kill that if you can when you have to give up the assets that we will. You can give them up later or now. If you can get the right deal better to give them up now and clean up your roster. ThatBoyNick was suggesting the same thing with his great trade if we lose out on Butler. We have no incentive now to hold onto assets that aren't on the court. We need everything out there now and we have 4 or 5 years to do our damage.
     
  5. ROXTXIA

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    Be well, Cod. A big bro hug from the Clutchfans community).
     
  6. 1Deep

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    Morey is the G.O.A.T but getting Minny to send us JB considering what we have to offer compared to other teams is just too much to ask.
     
  7. steddinotayto

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    That's interesting:

    Washington: Porter for Butler? Beal for Butler? I think Washington keeps Oubre because he's still under a cheap deal. Me, personally, I'd trade Wall before Porter or Beal because it's an atrocious contract for a player that's already reached his ceiling.

    MIami: There are so many overpaid role players on that team that it makes some sense for Taylor/Thibs to go out and get guys that can come in and contribute right away just to say "we're in the playoffs!" again.

    If I were Morey, I'd try to get Atlanta in on this party instead of Sacramento

    Atlanta receives: Justin Patton and Tyus Jones from Minnesota; Nene and 2021 1st from Houston

    Houston receives: Jimmy Butler from Minnesota

    Minnesota receives: Eric Gordon, Kent Bazemore and 2019 1st from Houston

    Atlanta not only rid themselves of Bazemore's contract, they pick up players either expiring (Jones), still on a cheap rookie deal (Patton), and a vet making a smaller salary (Nene). Then they add to their war chest of picks by picking up Houston's 2021 1st.

    Minnesota gets not one but two very good wing players that will help them with their push to make the playoffs next season AND they get a 1st rounder. A combination of Gordon and Bazemore is surely better than anything Miami can throw at them barring the inclusion of WInslow/JRich/Adebayo. The another incentive here is that these two guys are both coming off the books at the same time in the summer of 2020, the same time Jeff Teague's contract is up. That's $50 million combined across three players that will come off the books in 2020. If they can find someone stupid enough to take Wiggins' contract Minnesota might become a player of sorts in the FA market in 2020.
     
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    Eric Gordan is better than anything Miami is offering. Hell he is better than pretty much everyone in the trade rumors.
     
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    He's better next year but Minny isn't even gonna be in the playoffs next year so what's the point. Then after that they'd have to pay him cause he's expiring. Gordon, while a great player for the right team, is completely useless to the Wolves.
     
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    Thibodeau's job is on the line. He needs to make the playoffs this year. Plus their owner is tired of tanking.
     
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    Yeah. He’s definitely the best player available in Jimmy talks. Unfortunately not what Minny needs
     
  12. Vivi

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    Minnesota can offer Gordon a starting spot and an extension, Eric is 29 years old, and considering how many games he missed for most of his career i'm pretty sure he can roll at his best for another 3/4 years, at this point there's really nothing to not like about him, two way player who can shoot, score in many ways, can guard 3 positions, good teammate...he's actually a great fit in Minnesota with Towns and Wiggins, way better than other names that have been mentioned in these days (Tobias Harris, Lou, Winslow, James Johnson, Ingram, Ball, Covington and probably others).
     
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    Minnesota probably doesn't value cap relief this year as much they do for future years, so Sacramento isn't our only option to redirect Dieng.

    Some relevant free agents that expire next summer:

    Chandler Parsons $23.6 million
    Wesley Matthews $17.5 million
    Enes Kanter $17.5 million
    DeMarre Carroll $14.5 million
    Nikola Vucevic $13.3 million
    Kenneth Faried $12.5 million
    Terrence Ross $10.5 million
    Jared Dudley $10 million
    JaMychal Green $8.1 million
    Garrett Temple $8 million

    Orlando and Memphis both look like potential trade partners.
     
  14. J.R.

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    Jimmy, it's Glen. We're just making sure you're proceeding through with your current contract in good faith.

     
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    lol at Taj Gibson's reaction
     
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    @cyberx is there indication that an ending to this saga is coming soon? I assumed this would have been done by now with camp opening today.
     
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    Houstons got just the guy their looking for....

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  19. steddinotayto

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    lol that would be hilarious.


    We managed to trade Ryan Anderson and Melton to get back Chriss and Jimmy Butler.
     
  20. Vivi

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    Phoenix apparently had interest in Beverley but Clippers wanted a 1st rounder...still not sure the Clippers have the pieces for the Wolves, no 1st rounder, Harris expiring, Lou...meh.
     

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