Woj: Butler Willing to Expand List if Wolves Can Make a Deal

@Clutch weighs in....

 

Thanks. Yea, saw that. Knight would have to be involved to make salaries match.

 

The concern becomes how much will TF pay in luxury tax and for how long.

 

We still have to send out salaries though to make a three team trade work.

I'm totally 100% against a deal that sees us move out Gordon and Knight in some combination that brings back Jimmy Butler and Dieng here. Someone has to be on the team who is willing to just shoot a 3 ball.

 

Gordon and Capela for Butler and Dieng?

That would hurt

 

Theoretically we might also add Chriss for Tyus Jones, not saying Minnie would/should do this, and i don't want to turn this into a random trade thread but...

Gordon, 1st rounder, 2nd rounder, Nene for Butler

Knight for Dieng

Chriss for Tyus Jones

Capela/Zhou/Dieng/Hartenstein
PJ/Melo
Butler/Ennis
Harden/Green
Paul/Jones/MCW

And we would still have the full tax MLE to play with in the buyout market fwiw.

 

We'd still have Gerald Green. He'll put them up plenty. Don't forget about MCW either.

 

Fair point. I somehow forget about Gerald Green!

 

can't wait to see mcw put up 3 balls

 

I could get on board for this, though I'd hate that we'd be stuck with Dieng. SMH.

I would worry that contract would hurt us long term due to luxury tax.

 

@Carl Herrera

 

I actually don't hate this from Rockets' perspective (keeping PJ, still have that backup hammy)

For the wolves it depends on how much premium they put on moving Dieng's body (my guess is high, in essence that's a deadlier body to move than Ryno's..).

 

Would that Brandon Knight had an expiring contract. Alas but no.

Look, we could all just suck it up and go to Landry's once or twice a year for the next few years. (Wash down whatever food you get with a beer or two, it might neutralize the taste.)

 

Re: [Zach Lowe] - Unloading Gorgui Dieng’s remaining $48M.
Minny wouldn't prefer Lou Williams + expirings if it involves a Dieng salary dump?

 

I would gladly deal Tucker and Gordon for Butler. I can have two of Harden/Butler/Paul on the floor at all times and Butler absorbs 37 minutes a game himself. Not to mention the improved perimeter defense I have with Butler added.

As for power forward, I can run Anthony and Ennis out there just fine. The Rockets were going to give minutes at the 4 to Anthony anyway. There are also ways for the Rockets to improve and acquire a suitable 4 to play 20 minutes a night. Even Minnesota has given Butler some minutes at the 4.

As far as Dieng, I don't think that TF would agree to take on that salary for 4 years.... but assuming that he wants to, Dieng straight up for Knight works.
Knight was not being counted on for heavy minutes and there is a real chance that he is a below average NBA player this season. So I do not consider Knight a major loss. If the Rockets were really concerned, they could roll Tyus Jones into the deal.

It is all VERY VERY unlikely, but if it magically happened I think the Rockets would be an even bigger threat to GS. Granted, it would require dealing Chriss later in the year for a 4 and may cost the Rockets moving Nene and a pick for a 4.

 

Same here, i was never a fan of Ryan but i think Dieng is a worse player (which is debatable i guess) on a worse contract (and this isn't debatable) so, yeah...that might be too much for Tilman, wouldn't blame him if he would refuse that deal for that to be honest, that third year at 17M is probably a big negative even with the cap rising again.

Absolutely.

 

They don't want Knight. Knight/first round pick to the Clippers for Harris first, then …..

Remember it is not a package for Butler. It is one for one deal.