Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Whelen's behavior was wrong, and he was at least enough of a decent human being to admit it and apologize for his totally inappropriate actions.

But all of that pales behind the Democrat coordinated smear and slander campaign against Brett Kavanaugh, with tens of millions of their passionately despicable supporters cheering them on, including you and a number of others here in this very thread.

See how I condemned Whelen's wrong behavior? And see how he has apologized for it? That is what we need to see here from the Democrat left. But you people are apparently so devoid of integrity that no such thing is likely to ever be seriously considered by you people. You really are some of the worst examples of humanity that our world currently has to offer.

 

True, but Katz has a well established history of supporting issues of the left. Which is probably what made her a good choice for Ford (I suspect Katz reached out to her, not that that is important).

This is indeed the question, and is the strategy behind the approach the Dems have adopted. The Republicans seemed to be playing it well. Trump's latest tweets not being an example of that...he had been very measured and cool. Something I suspect the Dems had not counted on. I think putting out messages opposing the Democratic rhetoric on this is important and necessary, but it needs to be very measured, lest the issue you point out runs against them.

I suspect the outcome at the end will be Kavanaugh is nominated, this issue follows him and Republicans for a LONG time, and the impact this has on women voters in the upcoming election is really where the 'battle' is.

I would think a good part of the message Republican's should be putting out is how one sided support on the left actually is for these issues. If the accuser is a Democrat, and the accused is a Republican, they are up in arms about it. If the opposite it true...it's either a non issue or excuses are made for it. Getting that message out would definitely thwart any swing regarding who is actually supporting women, particularly when, for the scenarios currently being talked about, those where the accused is a Democrat have a lot more substantial evidence in them. I don't think women, in general, would appreciate that their concerns are only heard if they fall into the proper political spectrum.

 

The accuser has an opportunity to be heard. She's not taking it, but instead pulling out all kinds of stalling techniques.

...and "morphed"? - this was a pure distraction from the left from the beginning. They want to whip people up into a tizzy over "women's rights" and "#metoo", even if it takes a 36 year old accusation pulled out of their azz at the 11th hour. Attempting to score cheap political points, that's it.

 

FIFY.

 

One could argue that that the accuser has been heard.

 

It is like mob attorneys or Johnnie Cochrane or any number of other attorneys. They are business people, they are advocates and glorified salespeople. We can get into how they can represent certain clients or positions...... but as a trial attorney, I can tell you at the end of the day what the attorney really believes in or represents means very little.... we are glorified mouth pieces.

I don't know if the Republicans are playing it well, it is very hard to know. I have seen a few polls that show a majority of Americans do not think Kavanaugh should be nominated. If that is the case, then I would argue they probably haven't played it well. It is going to be nearly impossible for the accuser to prove her story, so I think they should have let the FBI investigate it, give in on certain of her demands and let her testify. All she (or Kavanaugh) can do is testify well and possibly sway the Sentate...... but you and I both know that isn't going to happen, he is going to be appointed and at the end of the day, it is all about the optics.

That is the huge question..... how long, and to what degree does this follow the Republicans in office and running for office. No one really knows, and it is possible that it makes little difference. However, the fact that this is the second Republican on the Court with sexual assault allegations, and the President has had 15+ sexual assault allegations.... it could cause some women that are moderate Republicans and young, to defect from the party for awhile. We don't know, but from a political stand point that was the best the Democrats could get out of this.

Respectfully, on this issue I don't think that will go far for the Republicans. On issues other than women and assault..... yeah the Republicans should point out the hypocrisy. On the #MeToo movement, and issues of assault and harassment against women, the Republicans really don't want to go down that rabbit hole because they have way too much proverbial blood on their hands right now.

IMO I think that the Republicans should be more careful and sensitive on women's issues for awhile, and hit hard on economic issues. While it is very true that there are far left wing democrats that go way to far with the stuff they support, it becomes almost a trap for Republicans. They would be better off arguing the economy is strong and America is safe. That will resonate with independents and even some democrats.... let the democrats call themselves socialists.

 

A baseless allegation isn't credible....so really those 2 can be used interchangeably in this instance. As to "3 days", you have no way of knowing how long a potential FBI investigation could last. Since they have absolutely nothing to go on, it could take months for them to try and figure anything out. The ONLY reason Ford's DNC handlers were demanding an FBI investigation is in the hopes that it delays the Kavanaugh confirmation long enough to where a potential "blue wave" in the Senate would allow Democrats to block the confirmation altogether. It's a REALLY transparent tactic.

 

I like John Cornyn. As far as I know he hasn't tried to rape anyone, pay off prostitutes or commit any financial fraud matters.

He was pretty devious with his handling of the healthcare proposal last year, but he was the majority whip and he played a political game.... and he is a politician.

Cornyn also withdrew his support of Roy Moore if I remember correctly.

A decent man.

 

I would call him a rightwing nutrider but that’s me. You are too nice.

 

BREAKING ON CNN: the LIKELY – key word, likely – GOP counteroffer to Prof. Ford is as follows 1) hearing Wednesday, 2) Ford testifies first, #Kavanaugh second, 3) Independent counsel asks questions. via @DanaBashCNN @Phil_Mattingly

— Catherine Valentine (@CNNValentine) September 21, 2018​

This is all kabuki theater at this point - posturing for P.R. purposes - as Ford has no intention of testifying, as she and the Democrats crafted her absurdly unacceptable terms in order to sabotage the prospect of that happening.

But just in case I am wrong, here is a counter-offer from the Senate Judiary Committee.

Of course both sides already know that she will not accept, as she is not a credible witness and her story would be torn to pieces by the female attorney that the SJC is hiring to question her.

 

Such a high bar nowadays for elected official

 

Yeah that got me confused too. I would never describe you as intellectual

 

So you seem shocked by someone minimizing an alleged event that was similar in length of time and number of times like Katz did. I guess that means you think her quotes are appalling.

I just point this out because you religiously rail against one side. It's not "whataboutism" that people seem to love to proclaim when they don't want to examine what their selected political team is doing. It's about how your outrage on here only goes against one side. Just pointing that out, but whatever it won't change anything. Also, the source of the quotes doesn't matter. The words and opinions are still hers.

Anyhow, I just thought it was funny how much of a clown show this thing is when you consider the quotes Ford's attorney used to defend a similar yet even more overt act of sexual harassment/assault.

Whatevs I'm gonna go walk the dogs.

 

Wow just listening to those responses show how morally corrupt his base is. Especially that old lady saying “all young guys do that”. Holy **** lol.

 

The party of morality and family values, that's why I love the GOP.

 

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He was a US circuit judge who was making nearly 200k a year with stellar credit and 20% down....oh and that's not including his wife's salary who was at the time a staffer for the president making most likely at least 100K a year. Is it really a shocker that he got that loan? C'mon, try harder.