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Texas Cop Who Fatally Shot Man After Entering Wrong Apartment Identified

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I got your point. I agree that choosing and working towards a better path than hate and contempt is the way to go. We aren't in disagreement. However, my point was that one can do that but also speak out against the racism that exists in our legal system and law enforcement. We can choose a better path and not hate and contempt while also working to end the racism that exists as a part of that better path.

    You chose one incident that you mentioned and said how you didn't hold it against that race because of that one incident. You aren't aware of the incidents that occur in regards to minorities almost daily. Some may be mostly minor on some days and there may be major ones on other days. Those experiences aren't limited to just one family. I won't pretend to know the challenges faced by a person with autism, or every minority. I will listen to the experiences of people with autism, minorities, and do some study and research other academic studies in an attempt to try whatever empathy I have. I will also accept that I will never have a full grasp of the challenges different folks face, so I won't pretend to tell them what they are getting wrong in regard to those challenges.

    I'm not trying to be noble, I'm just trying to not be the biggest ******* in the world. Sometimes I fail, but I'll still keep trying.
     
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  2. JayGoogle

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    The issue is this.

    The world isn't a perfect place, you can't tell people, people like him or me, that 'You should just be color blind, race doesn't matter...' and stuff like this when to others, RACE DOES MATTER.

    Here's some examples...

    Here is Tim Scott, Republican..
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/13/politics/tim-scott-police-racial-profiling/index.html

    Short read or listen to the speech itself.

    Not only this but WaPo put up a great article on this where you can find a link to the CNN article...
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...e-proof/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.924b0733df33

    Realize that each of these points is accompanied with a study and data. That it is not anecdotal. I don't want to overwhelm you with data but if you are open to listening to the other side then this article is full of very strong arguments about it and in one place.

    and if you want anecdotal evidence of racist police officers, boy, I can provide that too. Quite easily. There have been multiple stories of cops making racist jokes, racist videos, posts online, etc etc...

    The point is, stop trying to deny people's experience. Just stop. If you care about Law Enforcement so much then you should want it to work for all people and you should be open to criticizing instead of just defending it automatically as pristine and pure.
     
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  3. Granville

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    I was responding to a person with a path laden with hate and contempt telling me I had the perfect life because I was born white so everything I wrote was appropriate. Read the carpet bombing stereotypical posts here.

    I'm not aware of every incident, no. Neither are you. You certainly don't always have the factual knowledge to know what challenges the police face on a day to day basis or with a specific case but don't mind telling them what they are getting wrong much less accuse them of criminal behavior. That's the crux of the problem isn't it.

    But this subject has been on the news many many times so I'm certainly aware of the cause. If false flags are allowed to be flown as they are often done today and that could have a negative effect on individuals sworn to protect the public to the point they are murdered or just plain quit the job because of unnecessary harassment that groups want to be the norm then yeah I have a right to comment.
     
  4. Granville

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    Why don't you read what I wrote.... I said it wasn't the only lens to view life. I also said this cop appears to be guilty of manslaughter. I criticized her judgement. I have criticized the cop who killed Eric Garner. I was pissed when Joe Horn got off. Not going to bother respond to the rest of your post since you don't bother to read mine.
     
  5. Rocket River

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    The point was my son was wronged by a person of a different race employed by an agency who investigates itself and we built a path forward without ******** on others of that race or employed by those agencies.

    I missed that in the original narrative you posted. . . . .. . . . this person . . .what did they do to WRONG your son?
    Maybe that was a different post somewhere else.
    I am pretty sure they did not kill him.

    Rocket River
     
  6. Granville

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    I obviously really didn't want to post what he did or else I would have, Not sure why it's important to you other to make some stupid point but....

    My son has severe Autism. He's non-verbal and lives in an altered universe so he's the perfect victim. He was sexually assaulted twice by this person employed to protect him at school. Your point is?
     
  7. Granville

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    Do you need to hear how the worst fear of parents with special needs kids is what happens to them after we pass? Then how crushing it is to have one of your worst fears for his future happen right in front of you. That how as parents we have to believe in the inherent goodness of people despite what someone masquerading as a protector of our son did to him. Do you have any idea how hard it was to trust him to go back to school? Those teachers that picked up the pieces left by a despicable co-worker deserved our trust and exceeded our expectations.
     
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    LOL@bobby for putting ANY Stock in Zimmerman’s words. In the subsequent years, we have seen the scum of the Earth that guy is. Beating his wife and fighting other motorist. The guy has a temper and it makes what happen to Martin all the more sad because Zimmerman was looking to start something.
     
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    I'm usually more of a reader in threads like this but your story really hits me hard.
    My younger sister has autism(in a lesser level than your son, she is verbal) and I've seen my parents struggle over the years.
    I tried my best to help them and tried to educate the people around me about her and her daily life and own world.
    I know that there is a big difference between a parent and a brother and that my experiences and fears are not comparable to yours but i understand what you say and just wanted to appreciate my support and wishing you and your son all the best.
     
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  10. FranchiseBlade

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    If false flags are believed, we should examine why they are so easily believable. It doesn't happen in vacuum.
     
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    I have been reading your posts, I honestly don't care if you criticized the cop who killed Eric Garner or where your opinion lies on this case or that. I didn't even bring that up dude and that's irrelevant to the point I was making.

    My post still applies because you are judging how other people see life through their own experiences, telling people that if you don't blame others everything will be alright. I feel it's perfectly fine to blame others especially when evidence points that maybe...just MAYBE there is some blame to give others, like the rest of my post that you refused to read shows. That's how justice works, it doesn't work by ignoring injustice, it works by people pointing it out.

    You can continue to act like the world is color blind and doesn't see race, others can't. It's really that simple. Been that simple since the inception of this country and since the inception of this country people have been telling black people that everything is alright, everything is fair.
     
  12. Granville

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    Thank you. The reason our charity group centers around the entire family is that Autism affects the entire family. You sound like a great brother and son. I have an older son that shares your sibling experience so I can understand how you feel too. May god bless your sister and your family.
     
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  13. Granville

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    No, I'm telling you there's a better path than hate and contempt if you truly care about advancing your cause. You think it's ok to blame people ie.. police officers....if maybe they did something? Please go away.
     
  14. JayGoogle

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    This is a strawman, people aren't blaming every single individual police officer, they are blaming the structure, they are blaming the system.

    I think it is okay to blame the system and I posted tons of evidence why that is so. You wish to ignore that evidence, I don't know why, but I'll always remember MLKs words about those more devoted to order than justice.

    Lol, no.

    Where did I personally insult you? This is a message board, this is thread I have every right to post in. Block me if you don't want to see my posts, I really don't care, all that does is tell me you're not truly comfortable having the conversation which I honestly assumed anyway.

    So no, I won't be going away. I'll post in any thread I'll wish and reply to any poster I wish to reply to until a moderator tells me not to.
     
  15. Granville

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    The main reason is biased media coverage for the sake of ratings.
    Ok, see ya.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    Well, I guess this is a first! Blocked for posting facts!
     
  17. pgabriel

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    She shot him in the context as a person returning home.
     
  18. Amiga

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    I just want to make a simple point.

    For my own experience, and I assume this might be your also, people do listen and do seem to have empathy for kids with disability. Just that willingness to see what we and the kids suffer through is huge.

    That is what I think is missing for many people that felt they experience racism. Whether you or any person agree or not, just willing to hear them out, their experience and how they think they have suffered I think would be huge. I think that is not happening enough in our society.

    Just my opinion.
     
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  19. Rocket River

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    My point was not to make you reveal the incident.
    IT is very unfortunate and i hope the person was properly punished for his crime

    My Point is that the issues I speak on are systematic
    Not exactly as personal as yours perhaps but person to me.

    Rocket River
     
  20. Granville

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    I think that happens more with an easily visible condition or one with less complexity than Autism. You'd be surprised at the rude things that people say to parents of autistic kids. Kids a brat.....etc etc.... I have seen grown ass body builder type A jocks break in to tears discussing the hurtful things people say. I had a grown man curse me out for legally parking in the handicap spot at Lowes even after I explained my son has autism and if he is on the verge of a meltdown that we need the quickest route back to the car. People have told me about others who continue to video their kids during a meltdown after they have been told their child is autistic. People that know the R word is offensive and straight up use in in front of special needs people. You'd be surprised at how much that happens.

    I disagree that racism isn't talked about enough. The discussion is part of American culture. I listen and agree where I should. I don't know if it's the coach in me but I don't condone obvious excuses. For instance, I can watch the Bland video and see where the dude was a dick. But the lady went overboard and I'm sorry it's not the fault of the police that she committed suicide.

    I do get what feeling isolated from society feels like. It's why at the lowest point in our lives already isolated from society., The incident happened, we struggled for a bit but we knew we had to build something for us to cope and it couldn't be a place to blame people. Had to be a place to strengthen the bonds between families like ours in this community and in other countries.
     

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