Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Are you that dense? The only description of the party was the one she claims she was sexually assaulted. How is he suppose to admit to being at a party if he doesnt know the time, date or place? By this idiotic logic of yours, everyone on this planet who was alive at the time could have been at this party too and should be summoned as a witness.

 

Sounds like something that should be investigated. Why don’t you want that to happen again?

Oh yeah.. because you think you need them to jam this guy through in the next week or so in order to continue to get 5-4 SCOTUS decisions.

At least be transparent here about what you’re goals are here. Just be honest here and tell the truth that you think Kavanaugh on the court to push your agenda through is far more important that first investigating claims of attempted rape.

 

It doesnt, but if it's what she wants
then she should go to the police.

 

What is the FBI if not police? Anita Hill’s claims were investigated pre-testimony by the FBI since they are the law enforcement entity that handles background on federal court nominees. Why would that precedent magically cease to apply here?

I thought precedent matters to the Republicans and especially Kavanaugh himself who never stops talking about precedent??

Your attempt here is a classic “blame the victim” move we’ve seen for decades. “Why didn’t she go to the police in the first place?”....”she must be lying”. We all know that’s where you are going here with your “why didn’t she go to the police” bs.

Just be honest here and admit the truth that your political agenda far outweighs hearing out any one particular woman’s claims of sexual assault. Not even that... you aren’t even willing to temporarily DELAY your political ambitions. Nobody says you aren’t getting another Right Wing Justice to help take away women’s rights, overturning healthcare laws, civil rights, voting rights, etc etc... all the things you dream about. Nobody is saying that a slight delay will deny you what you are craving so bad.

Stop it with the straw man arguments and just be F-ing honest for once.

 

the FBI is not the police.

Anita Hill was a federal employee accusing her boss of harassment on federal property. Thus a federal crime. What Ford is claiming is not a federal crime as it was private citizens on private property. If you want an investigation you go to the police.

This is probably the worst comparison you could of made.

The law matters. Learn it. Study what federalism is.

 

Anybody know what the I in FBI stands for?

Just curious.

 

How about the F?

 

Investigate what? That the party Ford speaks of actually occurred? To do that, she needs to be clear about when and where this party took place, which she has been unable to do so far. Everyone she claims was there has come out and publicly stated there was no such party.

At this point, it increasingly appears that not only is Kavanaugh not guilty of these charges, but the party in question never happened.

There is literally nothing to base an investigation on here. The very most basic facts do not exist, cannot be confirmed, or have consistently and absolutely been refuted by anyone who she has said was there and could serve as a corroborating witness.

This is just another unconscionable, politically motivated smear campaign by the relentlessly lying Democrat left. You people are beyond despicable. I am at a loss for words. Grotesque. Undiluted evil. To say you people are like the reeking fecal crust on the side of a badly maintained commode would be doing a disservice to the reeking fecal crust. Unbelievable.

 

on the flip side.

Judge wrote a book on the elite boys schools in the DC suburbs, during BK's days there, describing them "they were drowned w alcohol"

a copy of BK high school year book showing photos of pranks committed against girls

BK spoke at a Georgetown ceremony, saying "what happens in Gerogetown stays in Gerogetown"​

 

"I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait."
To most non-misogynistic people this SOUNDS like an assault. And I don't care if it's locker room talk. My original point was that he admitted to a sexual assault. And it's funny that you didn't try to defend "Trump is a notorious liar" part of my argument.

The very first idea of a #metoo accusation that came to my mind involved an example of accusation with as much detail and as little corroborating evidence as the Ford vs Kanavaugh affair. Both cases are old & have teen accuser & are reported in a newspaper (ie no testifying involved). In one case you have a location (that's not evidence though as it provides nothing as far as corroborating the account) - the other gives you names of 4 participants (evidence that can help corroborate the account), and a lie detector; in one case you have event time estimated to a season and in the other case you have it estimated to "possibly" two (you have no clue if Ford didn't figure out some detail of summer in question to make the date more precise as she was rehashing her memories for the wapo interview); in one case you accuse "famously private about his personal life" Spacey of history of sex deviancy and drugs and in the other case you don't care that Kavanaugh is proud of his judgement impairing drinking habits in his high school year book;

So yea, you are obviously selectively biased to say that this #metoo example is not a good comparison to the case at hand.

Ok. Thanks for proving my point that you don't give a **** about sanctity of scotus by not wanting an investigation. Someone just posted that Anita Hill investigation took THREE DAYS because it was ordered to be hasty by Bush.

 

Since you're swimming in "fecal crust," you won't mind apologizing to the folks you are attacking here if it turns out that Kavanaugh is a proven liar, that the party in question occurred, and that witnesses to his behavior come forward to backup Ms. Ford, right? That's assuming that the "hearing" allows the FBI to investigate the man's history, as Ms. Ford has requested. She understandably doesn't want to be a piñata for the Republican dominated panel in their rush to shove this fellow through.

I wonder why there is such a reluctance for that to occur? Judge Garland wasn't even allowed a hearing and was left stewing for a year while McConnell gleefully ran out the clock. What's the big hurry? Afraid of what an investigation will turn up? Hypocrisy writ large, dude.

 

such intellectually dishonesty on ur part

none of them were speaking under oath.

au contrare;

• the attendees to the party
• Prof Ford's friends at the time
• BKs friends at the time
• the culture at the elite private high school in the DC suburb during BK's time, expert witness includes Judge who wrote a book on it.
• the year book

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at this point

the GOP-controlled senate is beefing up their efforts to rush thru this life-time appointment.​

the longer this goes on, the most likely more woman and corroborators will come forward.

 

I saw that video clip and it was a pretty corny joke.

I don’t disbelieve Ford but her story is not being corroborated. If the 4th person she named comes out with a similar denial then I don’t know what more there is to investigate.

Myself, I am curious what the relationship between all these people was and if they all knew each other well. Ford says she has medical records of something relating to the incident. Maybe the girls that she said were at the house remember some kind of party like this? The therapist involved in this should be questioned as well. What kind of background does the therapist have? The people at the pool party she was coming from should be questioned as well to see if they have any idea about anything. Maybe they know what house this was at?

I think it’s terrible for all parties involved that this incident wasn’t vetted because as things stand it’s not looking the best for her. I don’t think she made this story up to stop the Kavanaugh confirmation because that would mean she’s risking her entire career and reputation. However, at this point she clearly doesn’t have anywhere near enough to prove anything and this should have been made crystal clear to her by her attorney. Maybe they are sitting on a bombshell?

 

Ok so if they heard about it then they would know the house it happened at. She should send a letter to the senators involved and go on the record.

 

You need to read the post above your own, Robbie.