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Kennedy to retire - USSC will swing even further right

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. larsv8

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    She does not hold the burden for reporting it.

    Nothing is stopping the victim from reporting it.

    Once again, you tribalist tools are trying to distract from the elephant in the room.

    Feinstein is not the story, BK is. I look forward to your comments on him as a sexual predator.
     
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  2. SamFisher

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    The initial salvo of defense posts obviously failed. Kavanaugh is at least kinda rapey now.

    Looks like you have a lot of work to do @Os Trigonum - "this is nothing. Oh man those dirty democrats!" isn't enough. I assume phase 2 of the Trump/Roy Moore etc playbook is "shes just a lying ho whi deserved what she got"
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    Perhaps it....deserves its own thread!
     
  3. tallanvor

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    of course she does. If someone reports a rape to you, you go to the police and tell them. Everyone would do this. If you don;t, its on you.

    This is also just one of the most immoral posts I've seen on this board.

    Just out of curiosity, why do you think the accuser sent a letter to Feinstein? for kicks? 'hey diane, we've never met, but 40 yrs ago i got raped by Kavanaugh. Don't tell anyone. Bye'

    Feinstein is the story. In my job (and any job), if someone brought up a rape to me and i didn't report it, I would instantly be fired. She should be too. Can you imagine what you would be saying if Trump had sat on a rape accusation for months?

    The BK stuff is meaningless and has no credibility until it can be corroborated. Feinstein's behavior really damages the credibility of the claim. It shows even she doesn't think the claims are credible or else why wait to the last minute.
     
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  4. B-Bob

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    Link?

    Also had never heard that Turtle warned against Kav. (Someone else posted that, via twitter embed.)
     
  5. Amiga

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    First, Feinstein isn't the only one with the knowledge and she did forward it to the FBI.

    Second, this is what the lawyer for Ford's stated.

    Katz said she believes Feinstein honored Ford’s request to keep her allegation confidential, but “regrettably others did not.”

    “Victims must have the right to decide whether to come forward, especially in a political environment that is as ruthless as this one,” Katz said. “She will now face vicious attacks by those who support this nominee.”

    You are attacking the messenger (the wrong one) when the obvious important issue at hand is whether BK lied or not. If he lied, not only shouldn't he be a SCJ, he should be impeached.

    EDIT: Source for quote and who else knew is in the WA POST article.

     
  6. tallanvor

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    After sitting on it for months which is what i said. Learn to read.

    In your opinion, why did she send this letter to Feinstein?

    Do you not understand how awful this attack truly is? If a random accusation from 30+ yrs ago with no evidence can prevent a nomination then literally nobody is safe. You could do this to anyone. Of course this disgusting approach will be used again because you fall for it. This new standard shouldn't be supported.
     
  7. larsv8

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    The only thing disgusting about this is your dismissal of a rape accusation by the victim. Testimony is evidence.

    This cannot prevent a nomination, what it can do is trigger an investigation so we can find out what is true, and then votes can be cast with facts.

    Your fake outrage is transparent and embarrassing.
     
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    It can't, this was nothing more than an act of desperation that is unlikely to even delay the confirmation. It's a calculated political move intended to help the collapsing blue splash during the midterms.
     
  9. tallanvor

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    I didn't dismiss it. I would of gone to the police immediately. You are talking about Feinstein who sat on it for months. She dismissed it. But that was the 'responsible' thing to do right?

    Cool. I look forward to every election and nomination to have rape accusations thrown out days before the vote by random people . We should delay every election/nomination while these baseless claims are investigated for months or years. This won't be abused at all.

    Whata bunch of horseshit.
     
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    There are no facts to be had here, there is a non-credible accusation with absolutely nothing to support it. It's nothing more than a cynical political ploy, if the accusation was credible and if there was literally any evidence to support it, that would be one thing but this is nothing more than the dirtiest of politics and it does nothing but harm actual victims by cheapening this sort of thing.
     
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  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    We deserve a SCOTUS appointee who didn't try to rape a woman.

    This must be investigated and time to put partisan politics aside. It's a shame that Republicans are rushing to defend this man against these allegations without an investigation. Utterly shameful
     
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  12. B-Bob

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    Well, to whomever you're posting, the outrage, fake or not, is just not necessary. There are plenty of conservative judges, from a long list, who wouldn't have this kind of baggage (one assumes), and who wouldn't have already lied under oath several times.

    Turtle suggested Raymond Kethledge or Thomas Hardiman, FWIW.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/us/politics/trump-mcconnell-supreme-court.html

    If Kavanaugh doesn't make it, you'll probably end up with one of those guys. So, big deal... unless of course the next election has consequences, which is exactly what your party staked unprecedented tactics on with Obama's last SC nominee in 2016. (Shrug)
     
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    oh come on. You can't be serious. What do you think this is?
     
  14. tallanvor

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    Why would you assume this? this ploy could be used against anyone?
     
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    So you expect her to immediately pass the info to the FBI even if its against the wishes of the victim who wishes to remain anonymous?
     
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    Republicans trying to railroad a radical judge is partisan politics.

    But now that Ford has come forward and passed a lie-detector test, aren't you concerned about this man? Shouldn't he take a lie-detector test as well at the very least?
     
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  17. tallanvor

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    why do you think the lady sent a letter to Feinstein?

    'HEy Diane, we've never met, but 35+ yrs ago i was raped by Kavanaugh. Don't tell anyone. Bye'

    To answer your question, yes i do.
     
  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Mitch McConnell had warned that Kavanaugh was the least likely judge to be confirmed and recommended another judge. Hmmmmmmm
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I am against the confirmation of Kavanaugh. That being said we don't know that he tried to rape a woman. I agree with investigating the claim. At this point, it wouldn't be fair to make a judgment. The evidence known to the public is far from a slam dunk. The fact that she would make the claim is reason enough to investigate. But that isn't the reason to refuse his appointment to the supreme court at this stage of the game. There is no time limit on the hearings to be concluded so it might be worth waiting for the investigation. In the meantime, I don't think that it is fair or wise to present him as someone that is already guilty of the crimes alleged against him.

    Maybe I'm one of the guys who they say won't play the game hard enough to win the Republicans seemingly do so much of the time. But I'm okay with that. Nothing is worth selling out the principles like that.
     
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  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Why do you think that she used the word 'bye' as the closing to her letter?
     

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