Colin Kaepernick protests anthem due to treatment of minorities

Of course, these simpletons could have just donated their clothes and shoes to...say...homeless shelters that are disproportionally occupied by veterans.

 

I was shocked that Nike did it. Even if they are picking the more profitable side of the debate, its treacherous to get your company into a high-profile sociopolitical debate; you don't know how things will shake out. My guess is that they were concerned that this thing was happening anyway and they didn't want the NFL's reputation to be an anchor to them because people just assume they're aligned. And, it's not just consumers directly. Nike relies a lot on star power for their marketing, and blacks make up a disproportionate share of the sport superstars. If they want to win out on getting the Lebron Jameses to be their spokespersons, showing some allegiance has got to help.

 

Actually I'm very cognizant and mindful of the products I buy though I accept it's impossible to be completely free. But I try and do the very best I can. But I certainly don't take money to be used as a propaganda piece for slave masters and I certainly don't protest for a very important cause while making money off said protest and my stance. Making money off a cause where lives have been lost is sickening.

 

good idea but here's a better one! let's spend and make millions on a cause where lives have been unjustly lost!!!

Nike and Kap should make a website that shows dollars spent, dollars made, and lives lost. Something like this,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...gs-2018/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bf8dce96f469

 

The younger demographic is a little less racist than the older demographic and this is really what it about. Lets be honest the Fox and crew people have tried to co-opt Kaep's message. He is trying to bring awareness to an issue in this country not disrespect the troops. Nike is just following the trends and trying to not be on the wrong side of history because that is where its trending.

 

Things aren't so simple. Having a dinner in Qatar doesn't mean Carmelo supports everything they do. The man is just trying to help Puerto Rico, I'd argue he shouldn't even have to go to Qatar but...sometimes you take help where you can get it, even if the helping hand is a little dirty. The USA, historically, has been ALL about this. This is a slippery slope that deserves its own topic.

Kap and Nike can also both make money off the protest and help it, these things aren't exclusive. It's not like that once Nike makes money off of Kap's protest that it ruined the protest entirely.

I don't see it as making money off of a cause either. I see it as garnering goodwill towards a community that has been instrumental in putting their brand where it is at right now and they are ahead of the trend doing it when it is still controversial.

If people believe that companies have free will and free speech then they should not be surprised when those companies speak out on social issues.

 

Great link.

I hope you're right about that. It feels to me like old-fashioned racial distrust and self-segregation is an old demographic thing, but that ideological white nationalism is more of a young man's game. Don't know the stats on that, but I'm not optimistic that the future is all hugs and drum circles.

 

I think Qatar is a more than "a little dirty" as you put it and I think the labor slaves would agree with me but to each their own.

Kap is well known for ONE thing right now and he turned it into a 2+ year contract. Meanwhile he hasn't said jack **** in those 2 years. He's been MIA on the cause. Now he (or the ad) talking about losing it all?!? Bro you've been getting Nike money for 2+ years! On top of that, it's money paid to you because people of color have been murdered by LEOs. Now Nike (where were you 2 years ago b****?!?) trying to make some money directly or indirectly from the cause.

I'm sorry but things are that simple. This **** right here is weak and gross.

 

it has done something of this magnitude before

Charles Barkley's "i am not a role model" ad, in the midst of his many public skirmishes w hostile fans,​

Nike is playing to its base, mostly millenials < 26 yrs old; it is praying for a twit from Traitor Trump, to extent the news cycle even longer

 

Nike's contract with Kap apparently includes some donation to Know Your Rights, a nonprofit supported by Kap's foundation. That's not really a counterargument to the money-grab accusation because I haven't seen how much they're talking, but an interesting bullet point.

 

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out, sure it'll make the knuckle draggers who support Kaep's BS happy, but it'll drive away many more. Doesn't seem smart to back such a controversial failed athlete, but I'm sure Nike can take the hit.

 

No one thinks that Nike is doing this out of the goodness of their hearts
of course it is a money grab . . . the ideal that you can support a good cause AND profit from it is not anti capitalism
This is no different than the NFL putting the pink on everything for Breast Cancer
No one thinks they doing it out of the goodness of their hearts .. . it is all PR and Advertisement

Rocket River

 

And USA has rolled around with worse governments to achieve goals. I think all Melo and those people are doing is they were offered money to help a cause important to them and took it. They can't save everyone and I'm sure if given the opportunity they would, but they can't. They know they can help a few people though by doing it.

I don't see it as Nike making money off of dead people? Honestly, your take on this is pretty fresh, i've never heard it being taken that way? I don't mean that as an insult just that I have not heard it before that Nike is making money off of dead people.

I think Nike supporting the cause helps the cause, it brings more visibility to it. I think it helps their brand ultimately, I guess time will tell, but I think they can eye roll at the people that are going to burn their one pair of NIKE shoes. Those virtue signalers only represent themselves and will be laughed at (as they are) and forgotten. Sure they are doing it ultimately to make more money, but it can still help the cause.

As for Kap, he is in a pretty big lawsuit so it's no surprise that he's not saying much. Probably a good idea too.

I don't think it is gross at all, i think it is a bigger disrespect to ignore the issue entirely especially when you are making so much money off of the affected communities. For me personally, that is a bigger insult that you'd take our money but don't care about issues that we care about.

 

Not getting into governments and what/why they do the things they do. They're governments which is on a whole other level. It's obvious to me as the World Cup draws closer that Qatar will use "famous" people as propaganda to clean up their image and these "famous" people will get paid for it. Meanwhile slave labor continues to die or have their passports stolen until their indentured slavery requirements are met. I would never do such a thing much less at the same time I'm calling for human and civil rights. That would be shameful and ridiculous. I better not see TMac, Melo, or anyone else talk to me about BLM or Anti-Trump, etc... Fack them.

On to Nike. Why didn't Nike publicly come out 2 years ago right after Kap's "protest" and DT's response went nuclear? Answer that and you know exactly what Nike's intentions are and it has nothing to do with helping the cause directly. They care about the cause as much as they care about Chinese workers.

Kap has the right to be quiet about the NFL, his lawsuit, etc... But not a single word on the protests and the reactions of the protest since it blew up 2 years ago?!? Give me a break.

 

"F**K YOU! I STAND FOR THE ANTHEM FOUR TIMES A YEAR!"

 

This is the kind of **** right wingers say back in the 1960s, too.

 

There are only about 40k homeless vets and only about 25k of them in shelters while there is over 550k homeless people in the US. There are a lot more homeless people who say that they are veterans than actually are veterans.

 

The difference of course being that in the 1960's there were legitimate civil rights issues being fought for, today there aren't. Today (or rather a few years ago, they've pretty much quit doing it) what is being protested is when black people are shot by cops while attacking the cops. That's not a legitimate civil rights abuse, that's just stupid people rioting to support criminals.

 

Gotta laugh at the NFL for being cucked by Nike. Uniform contract util 2028, paying a dude they blackballed with their own money.