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Trump cancels pay raises for federal employees

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 30, 2018.

  1. larsv8

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    Well, those corporate and 1% tax breaks can't pay for themselves.
     
  3. robbie380

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    So it will save $25 billion?

    He should push for SS reform since that is the bigger long term budget issue but whatever.
     
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    Obviously the tax breaks to the richest people in the country will then turn into hiring those "blue collar" government workers to a second part time high paying job. You people are morans
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Federal employees had had their pay frozen twice in the last decade and now this?
     
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    This bodes well for his "Privatize Everything" campaign since nobody will ever want to work for the Federal Government now.
     
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    That's part of the point, I think. Shrink and hurt the government as much as possible while he has the chance.

    To be clear to the OP, his "base" does probably not include many federal workers. They are the people at home on the couch, (cashing federal assistance checks in some cases, sure), being told by Fox news that federal workers are too numerous, and too lazy and definitely wasting all of the tax money Uncle Liberal Sam takes in every year.

    Looting is a great word for what has already happened under the current executive and legislative leadership. Very sad.
     
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    Remember, president Trump is getting paid nothing for his job ( I mean he gave up his base salary!) LOL
     
  9. juicystream

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    Raise the defense budget, but cut pay for DoD employees...
     
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    Uhhh, a few things: 1) you're citing CNN 2) We're $21 trillion in debt 3) the "wealthy," until Trump's tax cut, had been paying 80% or more of the taxes 4) the federal government spends and wastes more money than a drunken sailor, and about as wisely too.
     
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    Definitely this. I've read some reports that say that if we don't cut back SS, almost all of the federal budget will have to be devoted to it by 2030. Then you learn about Social Security Title 4d -- and then you realize that the federal government is out of control with its spending (and relatedly, it's liberal slant). There is no way that the federal government should be involved in child support payments. That's a state issue, if it's any government's issue at all.
     
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    Definitely this. I've read some reports that say that if we don't cut back SS, almost all of the federal budget will have to be devoted to it by 2030. Then you learn about Social Security Title 4d -- and then you realize that the federal government is out of control with its spending (and relatedly, it's liberal slant). There is no way that the federal government should be involved in child support payments. That's a state issue, if it's any government's issue at all.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...ary-pay-increase-for-federal-workers.amp.html

    Better?

    Robbing the poor and middle class to give to the rich.
     
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    That is political suicide even for republicans. SS, Medicare, and Medicaid + defense if the lion share of the budget. SS affects the elderly who like to vote and tend to vote republican.
     
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    Every branch of government is controlled by republicans. I guess they must secretly be republican.
     
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    FWIW defense spending has declined as a percent of the budget since 2015. It has only increased by 6 bil from 2015 to 2017. I don't know what it looks like in the 2018 budget though.

    SS reform wouldn't change anything for them and the proposed plans are very gradual in their changes. It accounted for the 2nd largest budget increase from 2015 to 2017 at +57 billion from $882 bil to $939 bil. Medicare has gone up 52 bil over that time and Medicaid has gone up 25 bil over that time as well.

    The other major budget increases came with unemployment benefits, federal civilian and military retirement, vet benefits, earned income tax credit, SNAP, and some other mandatory programs. That was about +86 billion from 2015 to 2017. $528 bil to $614 bil.

    https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/114th-congress-2015-2016/graphic/51110-budget1overall.pdf

    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52408

    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/53624
     
  17. BruceAndre

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    Most Republicans are Democrat-Lite
     
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    It's all a matter of framing. I could reframe your quote above as "Letting the productive class keep their own money, and reducing the forced redistribution of that money to the less or non-productive classes."

    The older I get, the more this second view seems to coincide with observable reality.
     
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    I have no problem with this whatsoever.
     
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    Stunner.
     
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