[Only a Problem in USA] Mass shooting in Jacksonville

You seem very focused on absolving trump from any blame. So you'd like to blame Obama, and presidents before him. Yes, Obama didn't solve the problem. He isn't president now. trump is. Remember the whole "can't accept trump won" screed? Well, he *is* president. And all we have gotten from him in the 18 months he has been president is what? Nothing but some story about a mythical Chicago cop that would solve the problem in a week.

And school shootings... I guess you must have missed the threads discussing Parkland and other shootings.

And what have I done personally? I have supported the Montgomery Sheriff's Department and their active shooter program, including donating money to help purchasing new devices that they hope to put into all schools in CISD and surrounding school districts (a plastic box with a metal rod to be placed in each classroom to quickly block the doors to protect students and teachers in the classrooms and indicates that people are protected inside the room for when law enforcement sweeps afterwards). This new devices are safer than the previous heavy bar used to bar the door (the bar itself could be used as a weapon).

Here's the device: https://doorbearacade.com/

And if you want to help here's where you can donate: http://montgomerycountycrimestoppers.org/bearacade-program/

 

To @Space Ghost 's credit, I think he's consistently been saying that the constant b****ing about Two Scoops really doesn't accomplish anything and it actually derails a lot of other useful conversations. I kind of agree with that.

Two Scoops is a genius marketer and he's a genius self-promoter and he has the whole country talking about him all day long. I too am sick of "look, his arms were crossed when he was asked to reflect on McCain!!" "look, a new boneheaded tweet!" All these things are 100% predictable. I'm not saying absolve Two Scoops of all his bad behavior -- I'm going to work hard, just speaking for myself, to make 2018 a memorably upsetting election cycle for him -- but his idiocy doesn't belong in every conversation, IMHO.

 

Well, ignoring the fact that there are things people can do locally (I provided a great program people can support)... trump has made a bad situation worse. He hasn't acted on the one promise he made (banning bump stocks). He hasn't stood up to the NRA (like he claimed he would). And it appears he has tried to move the ridiculous idea of arming school teachers. as the husband of a school teacher... I can't think of a more dangerous response to a serious problem.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...eaten-legal-action-against-devos-over-n903676

 

I acknowledge everything you're saying. I just don't think that poster was trying to deflect blame from Two Scoops. And I agree w' him that our outsized-ego-prez gets outsized attention in our discussions. Not advocating ignoring him at all.

Cheers to you (and your teaching spouse!)

 

It is their right, but one nobody wants to take on. I walk in and out of my hotel several times during my stay. My wife's body piercings set off some of the machines. Can be kind of awkward. Our bags tend to carry things that are not family appropriate, which I don't care for people to go through, especially in front of other people.

In Paris (and a little in London), it wasn't uncommon to check our bags at the doors of stores, but they were basically for show. Didn't have to open other compartments and they didn't look through the bag, so it was quick .

 

Kudos to Bortles...

 

In most cases a quick look is all it would take. You certainly aren't smuggling in 10 assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition if someone takes a look at your luggage.

I think this is also an issue that technology could ultimately solve even if the perfect solution doesn't yet exist.

 

You were supporting having a fortune teller guess which people might one day do something bad, not supporting the current laws on the books which already bar the mentally ill from owning firearms.

 

You were the one talking about fortune tellers

What I said was

and your response was

If you like to have a fortune teller doing your psych eval, thats your choice, but dont use it as an excuse to sow discord

For me psych evals should not be limited to only when buying a guin, it should be required periodically to keep one. I dont want a armed mad man on the street.

 

Okay, so in that case, your proposal is to do what is already the law....which means do nothing. Brilliant.

 

Another kid with psych problems and, for some reason, a gun.

I'm not shocked that the first "gaming" related shooting happened at a Madden tournament. The competitive Madden scene is pretty toxic.

 

Wrong - current laws prevent mentally hill from buying guns (even though Trump and GOP friend seem to overturned regulation that would have made it easier to do). It does nothing to check if they are mentally ill afterwards.

I want periodic checks and guns taken away if there is any reasonable suspicion of going off the hinges

 

You'd be wrong killer. State law prohibits mentally ill people from owning firearms. Federal law prevents a mentally ill person from buying them in the first place. If a person is diagnosed after buying the gun, it's still illegal for them to possess it under state law in nearly every state in the country....and it is very much illegal in Texas. So again, you were proposing the status quo.

 

You are the one that is wrong and rebutting claims that have not been made - Yes if you are diagnosed you should not won the gun but the law does not check if you are mentally ill afterwards!!!!

 

SMH, if you are diagnosed as mentally ill after you purchase a firearm, in the state of Texas it is illegal for you to continue to own that firearm.....you know because it is illegal for mentally ill people to own firearms. I'm not sure why you are struggling to understand that you are advocating a "change" that is already law.....but it's funny I guess, so keep it up. Next suggest a brand new law making murder illegal.

 

I still say you have comprehension problems

Key word being if. Does the current law require you go and get a psych check?

AFAIK It only applies if you had been checked and found ill. My suggestion is to require the periodic check and not wait till when an event independent of gun ownership necessitates it.

How that is difficult to understand is beyond me, but then one cant assume your intentions are genuine

 

So you want to require everyone in the country to go get regular psychiatric evaluations? LOL, that's an interesting policy. What do you do if someone refuses? Do you send them to the Gulag?

 

Not everyone but only those who own a gun, which is currently estimated at 30% of the population (far from the everyone you extrapolated to)

If you dont want a psych eval, then you shouldn't own a gun imo

 

The only way you could legally do it is if the government paid for all of them.....you looking to eat that tab?

 

I feel like Bobby is a ticking timebob just like this kid. Dude is the epitome of a loser that likes chatting with himself all day.