[Only a Problem in USA] Mass shooting in Jacksonville

Why are you replying to my post with this ****?

 

That already exists in a lot of municipalities as a requirement to get a permit. The question is how far do you go in an effort to protect the current interpretation of the Second Amendment? Will citizens tolerate metal detectors at any department store, grocery store or public gathering? A metal detector for entering a hotel or baseball game? Entering office buildings? How much would the general population accept before calling for a change?

I don’t know the answer honestly and I wonder how the cost associated would be viewed by citizens, not to mention time lost waiting to enter and leave.

 

Not to mention all that would do is cause log jams at events. People waiting to go through metal detectors, etc and making even easier targets.

Personally I'm okay with sacrificing my second amendment rights .

 

Odds of this happening at WSOP main event?

 

What does Trump have to do with this conversation? He's been President for 2 years. This is a decades old problem. It wasn't solved under Bush. Or Obama. It wont be solved under Trump or the next president after.

Why dont we talk about the mass casualties that happen every week in every city? people like yourself only want to talk gun control when there are mass shootings.

 

This is not a Mental Health issue . .. . . It is not about Mental illness but Mental Weakness
We always talk Mental Health with White shooters. . . but not the others.

Model Minority - Lumped in with 'white shooters'

Rocket River

 

If you're so keen on my posting activities, then you will know I have suggested a few unpopular ways to reduce gun casualties. What have you suggested? A goto "Fox News" snide remark? Lets not forget your typical racial mantra you spew non-stop.

If we dont find ways to reduce gun violence as a whole, we will never stop mass shootings. Nearly every mass shooter has used a legal weapon.

Do you know why America is so frightened by mass shootings? Because the well off Americans who live in great neighborhoods are an actual real target ... as opposed to those who live in run down ghettos. For someone who is so hung up on race, why are you so narrow minded to see this? Nobody gives a **** about day to day gun violence because its happening predominately to non-white poor areas. Where is your outrage over this?

 

I think you stumbled onto the solution.

 

Posted elsewhere. . . not here . . . . I would not want to give ya'll any red meat
But
Trust and Believe it is discussed often but not places here because
folx would use it as a distraction from other topics. . . like here in this thread

Rocket River

 

Yeah, that's what stupid people would have you believe.

 

I don't see having your bags checked when you go to a highly populated hotel as being an invasion of privacy and I don't have a problem with private companies banning customers from carrying guns. I mean it's their right to do so.

When it comes to concealed carry, I don't personally do it and the right to do so has limits. If you go to someone else's property, you go by their rules. If they say no guns, you don't get to bring your gun in. Simple as that. Now if you are going to set up a "gun free" situation, IMO you have a responsibility to provide armed security for the event or facility, but if that is done, I don't have a problem with it.

Not EVERYWHERE, but places where there are large gatherings of people there should be an adequate level of security. While the overall violent crime numbers are very low outside of a few urban areas with strict gun control laws and dozens of shootings every weekend, the trend in the rest of the country is towards mass shootings....so the response to that should be to create as few soft targets as possible.

You might be fine with it, but it is clearly inadequate based on your failure to comprehend what is being said to you.....even now you seem to not understand even after it was spelled out to you.

On top of that, you talk about people with psychological issues not being allowed to have guns.....but that's already the law on a state AND federal level.

I wouldn't think it would be reasonable for ALL events, stores, and that kind of thing, but if there is going to be a really large gathering of people, I think at a minimum there should be armed security. I think hotels in really popular tourist areas should put luggage through an x-ray machine to ensure no weapons or bombs are being brought in....but not every hotel in the country would need that level of security.

Basically you should take a step back and think "would my facility/event make a really good target for a crazy person looking to murder people?" if the answer is "yes", then you up the security till that's no longer the case. Sometimes all it would take is a security guard or someone checking bags, sometimes it takes more than that.

When I went to see Slayer on their farewell tour I had to to through a metal detector and there were people checking bags....it wasn't that big of a deal and certainly didn't feel like it was a "police state".

 

Yes it a mental health issue, you can call it mental weakness if you want but that’s nothing but playing with words. The point being is mental health or as you want to call it weakness, needs to be addressed in a major way in this country.

I don’t know who this “we” is, but leave me out of it. I’m accountable for my own opinions and actions. I haven’t brought up the shooters skin color of religion in this case nor any other, which isn’t to say that I don’t have thoughts on any of it but I certainly haven’t posted any of that on CF that would make you knowledgeable in any way of where I stand on the issues.

It’s definitely a mental health isssue of some kind for all who commit these types of terrors, as well as the other things I listed such as culture/trends, accessibility of weapons and security.

 

Actually, trump inserted himself into the Chicago crime story a long time ago. Or didn't you read the article I quoted from? trump made the claim he could some the Chicago crime problem with a week. Its been over a year and a half.

But knowing trump lies about everything (including making up people in order to add to his lie), I again ask the question... why can't the government address both problems... crime in large cities like Chicago, and the problem of mass shootings?

And btw, I would like to talk about increased gun regulation year round. You only become sensitive to the problem after mass shootings. What has trump done about the problem? Heck, has even even followed through on the minimal solution he claimed he was going to get done (bump stock ban)?

 

Ok. I get your point. And I also stated no president before him has done anything about it, and again, Trump is not going to do anything about it. Im not sure why you need to contentiously need to bring Trump up for every problem in this country when nothing is going to be done. Stop looking for Trump to solve all your problems. I dont see you blaming Obama for not doing more to fix this problem.

If you're that passionate about it (considering you have an opinion for nearly every thread in this forum), perhaps you should get out and start campaigning or raising awareness like the kids in Parkland.

If you're like 99% of Americans who just like to b**** and moan and do nothing about it, then at least start researching candidates running for office, raise awareness in your groups and try to get legit candidates into office instead of showing up on election day and strike everyone with a 'D" next to their name. Otherwise in 2 1/2 years from now, a Democrat will be in office and you will be back to blaming everyone else for the problem because another career politician has been elected (regardless if its a D or an R) who refuses to do anything meaningful about the problem.

 

You are the one who objected to my recommendation to taking guns away from psychos or do you think people that are predispose to mass murder are mentally fit?

 

We need to build a wall around all these white men who tend to shoot up crowds. Or at least make them go through metal detectors before entering any space with many people.

 

I have never heard a republican condemning whites for all the mass murder and serial killing white men have committed over the years, but they are often quick to use a handful of criminals to generalize other groups

 

No it wasn't solved under those but both were also blamed for not doing enough to stop mass shooting.

 

I’d hate for the rest of the country to turn into an airport, but damn that may be the best solution if people want their guns.

I hate airport security, but it’s been effective. I guess I’ll just need to plan accordingly before I go to gamestop to give myself 30 extra minutes to go through screening.

 

could you imagine, they set up security at every public place causing lineups everywhere, and mass shooters just shoots at people lining up instead