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[Only a Problem in USA] Mass shooting in Jacksonville

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheRealist137, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    All people in public areas should be amenable to a stop and frisk and an auto search and possession search and possible xray and/or cavity search.

    This is the price we all have to pay for the nutters to have their guns or 2nd Amendments or whatever they're calling it these days.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Kind of funny the extremes certain people go to in order to dismiss reasonable measures in order to push an agenda stripping people of their civil rights.

    Someone suggests using the type of security measures already in use at sporting events and concerts across the country and we get people suggesting that means everyone be subjected to cavity searches whenever in public. Is the fear that the reasonable measures would work and you wouldn't get to strip people of their civil rights?
     
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  3. biina

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    I am fine with my level of English comprehension - a simple question deserves a simple answer, and given how the question was phrased you answer was muted but 'clearly' stated what others thought when I wasnt asking what others thought.

    If you have a problem with a schizophrenic carrying a gun , what is wrong with applying same to people with other psychological issues?
     
  4. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Never argue with a sociopath. ;)
     
  5. biina

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    To argue would be to expect a rational discourse - I have no such lofty ambitions with him
     
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  6. theimpossibles1

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    I watched/listened to the video. After some thought, I realize that personally, even more disturbing than the audio itself is the fact that it barely fazes me anymore.
     
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  7. ThatBoyNick

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    It will be interesting to see how the guy obtained the gun (if they can figure it out).

    Like others have mentioned, this is a very complex problem. To me, it starts with the core issue of mental health, then the trend in society, then the accessibility of weapons and lastly security. There needs to be serious reform in every category, and soon.

    It's just utterly senseless, killing people just to end up killing your self. No potential gain, no incentive, just destruction of innocent people and their families. In gaming terms, this is the highest level of "griefing" one can do.
     
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  8. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I wonder if gun advocates can perceive that they are reverse engineering the exact conditions of brutal warfare. It's LIKE a war, but instead of starting with a reason, it produces a reason. Incredible.
     
  9. juicystream

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    Bobby, based on your idea it sounds like you want to invade privacy and stop the rights of caring a gun. What is the point of cacarryi if everywhere you go you are getting checked for guns?

    You sound like you want a damn police state, but ran by private companies.
     
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  10. durvasa

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    Yes. There are some common sense gun regulations that would probably help, but that alone doesn't solve the problem. The sad thing is that recognizing and talking about the problem, which is real, seems to make it worse. The more people who are "on the edge" hear about things like this, the more likely they are to step over it.
     
  11. Rocket River

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    The New America. . . .there is LITERALLY no place where someone will not bring a gun
    It seems like we have to have Metal Detectors EVERYWHERE now . . . .

    Child's Pageant .. . . .metal detectors
    Elementary Graduation . . metal detectors

    It seems like we are a society that should have metal detectors/pat downs at the entrance of every
    building/park/location

    Rocket River
     
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  13. ipaman

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    These last couple of events have convinced me that we have a mass shooting problem more than a gun problem. Not sure you can fix a mass shooting problem quickly. Our only choice might be to highly discourage attempts by having heavy armed security at all soft target gatherings until the idea of mass shootings fades away from public consciousness.

    Perhaps city/county permits should require armed security before approving permits. Would that public/event gathering permit requirement be legal?
     
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    Well that is the question, isn’t it?

    What is reasonable?

    Is it reasonable for all events, stores and other such areas to have armed and paid security?

    Should hotels, restaurants and the like all have metal detectors?
     
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    Did you see my post? Is it reasonable and/or legal to require security play, including staff, when requesting a public/mass gathering/event/special event/ type permits? if you don't have as part of plan, no permit granted. Would you start there at least.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    let's see. . .you post this every time a gun debate comes up . . . . .
    As does Fox News
    So .. . . exactly how is your favorite distrationary tactic being ignored.?

    jacksonville.jpg

    Rocket River
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    What about the asians?
     
  19. mdrowe00

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    Asian lives matter.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    But trump has some mystery cop that was supposed to be able to solve the Chicago crime problem within a week of becoming president?

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...p-solve-crime-immediately-20171011-story.html

    Seriously, can't both problems be worked on at the same time?
     

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