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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. Rashmon

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    She's just doing the research for what she will need to tell her own children in the not too distant future. Kudos.
     
  2. larsv8

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    Attorney General Ted Nugent ready to "lock her up"
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    john cornyn gets called out for abandoning his integrity to avoid questioning trump...

     
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  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Hahaha.

    Q: should the law make it harder to discover the truth of criminal activity?

    A: um, errr, I never really studied that up.

    Should make a nice Cornyn epitaph someday. Carving ready!
     
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  5. biina

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    The only people that want to make it harder to discover the truth are usually criminals or at least people that have done wrong things.

    If you have nothing to hide, (like Trump claims), why is he so upset about people cooperating with law enforcement?
     
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  6. mdrowe00

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    ...that's not a paper trail...

    ...that's a skid mark in the 'ol underoos...
     
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  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Honestly, and counter to the worst pictures painted by our more liberal friends: Trump does not keep track of rules, regulations, and laws. That would take careful study and doing homework.

    He is upset because, I think, he doesn't actually know if he's broken various laws or not. I think he probably did not know paying the p*rn star on the side needed to be a declared campaign contribution b/c it was done to help him win an election. "Too subtle -- who can keep track!"

    He's run his whole life that way and it's one reason he's one of the most often-sued individuals in our country.
     
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    Pecker flipped... I am honestly curious about what Trump has going through his mind these days. Is he nervous?? Is he enraged, which will eventually lead to indifference if he makes money off of this whole being Prez deal. Who the hell knows.
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    Yesterday, shs:


    Today, rudy:
     
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  10. JuanValdez

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    You're probably right about that. My business ethics prof called it moral imagination. A lot of businessmen get themselves into trouble because they're thinking narrowly about maximizing the benefit of the company and develop blinders on how company behavior impacts others. You see this in endemic fashion in Trump's life. He sees things only in whether it helps him win or lose and doesn't think about the laws, rules, or morality of any course of action. And he's probably so accustomed to making the rules bend when he gets called out anyway that he doesn't see much value in worrying about where the line is.

    You know Warren Buffett has three qualities he says he looks for in hiring people: energy, intelligence, and integrity. Some posters here and out in the wide world say that they don't care about a president's integrity because the system at least incentivizes them to deliver the platform so they can get re-elected. This is dumb. In Buffett's construct, compliance departments in companies are controlling for the sliver of employees who are intelligent and high energy but have no integrity. He wants to hire people with integrity so he doesn't have to spend so much policing them. If voters could apply this construct when they vote for politicians, we'd be a lot better off.
     
  11. mdrowe00

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    ...ohhhh, I think you're letting the president off a little too easily here, B-Bob.

    ...but that's because you're probably a really nice guy. So am I.

    But not for the next couple of minutes or so...

    Of course, on the surface, your argument's spot-on: Donald Trump does what he wants in pretty much any way he sees fit no matter the circumstance. His blunderbuss attitude and persona isn't so much schtick as it is method acting.

    Guess what you do when something matters enough to you? You find out all you can about it. Another obvious Trumpism you cited: the Donald lacks the generally acknowledged prerequisite finesse required to look before he leaps...because that's not how he gets (or rather, how he has often gotten) what he wants.

    Here's the thing, though: the Donald doesn't know what he's doing is almost the perfect cover for Donald Trump. Not knowing what you're doing is a lot easier to pass off onto people than not CARING (beyond a certain point or a desired result) about what you're doing.

    Ignorance is redeemable. Nobody can fix stupid. And crazy people don't have an agenda.

    Insane people, on the other hand, do have agendas. What they are is a bit off the beaten path in pursuit of their goals.

    None of the aforementioned being suited to describing Donald Trump.

    You're right about this, too: Donald Trump isn't some spellbinding master manipulator. Hell, even P.T. Barnum knew to keep his prized freaks in cages when they were out in front of the public.

    He's no Machievallian, Shakespearean, or even an Ernst Stavro Blofeld-level villain (that's reserved for Hillary Clinton—to let the Republicans tell it for over 20 years now, she's reached Bond-level-villainy proportion...only Pinky and the Brain are closer to taking over the world than she is, according to them...in spite of all this evidence against her they can't seem to find).

    He's got no cue cards, or director cues, or cut-takes to work from or marked spots to hit now. He doesn't have Vincent Kennedy McMahon waiting in the wings to take a flat-back bump for him...or have McMahon standing in the middle of 5th Avenue in New York City, with Ben Carson standing next to him with a pair of hair clippers in his gifted hands...ready to shave McMahon's head bald and pass himself off as some kind of two-fisted (or ham-fisted) hero of the people.

    Not keeping track of rules or regulations? Know who else did stuff like that?

    Just about anybody who called themselves a ruler or a leader or El Presidente or Il Duce or Fuhrer...just in the last 75 years.

    And Donald Trump isn't anywhere close to being that, either.

    What he is (all he is), is a grotesquerie. He's an awful and ugly caricature, a twisted mirror image of some people's warped imagination. Which wasn't all that much of a problem before, relatively speaking (buyer beware is all I would say about doing business with him)...but now that image is a reflection of all of us.

    He's just a mean, petty, larcenous and small human being (and that goes double for his hands).

    And he knows exactly what he's doing. And he doesn't care.
     
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    ... and rudy, who must be in second level dementia at this point (or, just a horrible liar)... has to walk back his previous statements with the most ridiculous story that even involves Kim Kardasian...

     
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    Again, the state of NY...

     
  14. Amiga

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    Rudy G is a walk back machine.
     
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    I would have agreed with you until I heard the tape. Trump knew damn well he was breaking rules and laws. Someone told him and They still wanted shell corporations established
     
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  17. Nook

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    I thought “white privilege” was an overly simplistic theory.

    After seeing Trump and Giuliani l have no doubt white privilege exists. No one else would get away with this.
     
  18. AleksandarN

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    I don't think Manafort is the biggest target Mueller wants to flip. The biggest fish, other than Trump of course, is Roger Stone. He is the direct link to Russia. If he flips it is over for Trump.
     
  19. mdrowe00

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    ...well, since he's dragging the Khardasians into this...

    ...why doesn't Rudy do himself a favor and get Kanye West-Khardasian to handle speaking to the media on behalf of the Donald...?

    ...I mean, nobody does "scatterbrained" like West does...and putting him on this would be in keeping with that whole "...hiring the best people..." stuff...

    ...not to mention replenishing the Donald's stock of house Negroes...

    ...and who knows? Maybe this would provide "Yeesus" with the confidence he needs to finally tell us all how flat the planet is...

    ...the suspense is killing me, personally...
     
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  20. basso

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    Obama got away with worse.
     

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